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Horse profile

Troublesombrothers (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2016) · Last trainer Norman Lee · Last owner Norman Lee
by Heron Island (IRE) out of Rebel Flyer (IRE) (Presenting)
4 runs · 3 courses · from Apr 2016
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Jul 2016 — 3,758 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2016 Won at Ballinrobe
KTB Profile

Troublesombrothers (IRE) is 1 from 4. Hasn't won since May 2016.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 126A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ballinrobe, 30 May 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 126A · median 121
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft2121A110.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2126A123.5—
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 4 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Heron Island (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 2,819 runs since Jan 2008 (317 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1200%−11.2—
Good to Firm1622314.2%+3—
Good8108310.2%−11 from 2
Good to Soft4745712%+0.8—
Soft8479210.9%−0.30 from 2
Heavy5015811.6%+0.4—
Standard (AW)13215.4%+4.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−11.2—
1m2f – 1m4f18316.7%+5.5—
1m5f – 2m8859610.8%−0.41 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f1,00010710.7%−0.50 from 1
2m5f – 3m7478811.8%+0.60 from 1
Over 3m1682112.5%+1.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rebel Flyer (IRE) (Presenting)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Ballybegg (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Ballybegg (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Ballybegg (IRE)3252m3½f–2m4fClass 3
Gortnagirl (IRE)30——
Ballinamona Flyer (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 1 50% +1.75
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ballinrobe 2 1 50% +1.75
Killarney (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 1 50% +1.75
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jack Kennedy 2 1 50% +1.75
A E Lynch 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2016 · 4 runs
14 Jul 16+45d Killarney (IRE) Larkins Pub & Restaurant Milltown Novice Hurdle 17f · Good · 8 ran PU/8 — 11-12 — Jack Kennedy 25/1
30 May 16+27d Ballinrobe Healy Mac's Maiden Hurdle 16.5f · Good · 15 ran 1/15 11-1 126A Jack Kennedy 11/4
03 May 16+13d Ballinrobe Tipperary Water Maiden Hurdle 21f · Soft · 15 ran 11/15 15 11-4 100C A E Lynch 16/1
20 Apr 16 Fairyhouse Support The Injured Jockeys Fund Maiden Hurdle 16f · Yielding · 14 ran 2/14 8½ 11-4 121A A E Lynch 22/1

Quick answers

How many races has Troublesombrothers won?
Troublesombrothers (IRE) won 1 of 4 archived starts in 2016, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 2 times in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Troublesombrothers?
Troublesombrothers (IRE) was trained by Norman Lee on the most recent run on record, at Killarney (IRE) on 14 July 2016.
Who is Troublesombrothers's sire?
Troublesombrothers (IRE) is by Heron Island (IRE) out of Rebel Flyer (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
What is Troublesombrothers's sire's record?
Heron Island (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 2,819 runs since Jan 2008 (317 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162.
Who are Troublesombrothers's siblings?
Out of Rebel Flyer (IRE), Troublesombrothers (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Ballybegg (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Ballybegg (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3½f–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.