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Horse profile

Try Them (IRE)

4yo gelding · Trainer Patrick Neville · Owner Eamon Mcelligott
by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Rock Magic (IRE) (Rock Of Gibraltar)
9 runs · 6 courses · from Dec 2025
As at 18 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Won at Perth Ran 24 days ago · 8th of 10 Last raced off OR 107
KTB Profile

Typically ridden prominently in 3 of 5 analysed runs — Try Them (IRE) is 1 from 9, the win coming at Class 4 level. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 5 on softer).

Based on 9 archived runs · run-style from 5 commented runs · updated 18 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Typically prominent Wins on good or faster Win at Class 4
Official rating107↓ 4lb off peak
107 107–111

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 114 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Perth, 7 Sep 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 114B · median 87.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good4114B914 · 114 / 91
Good to Soft284B73.52 · 84 / 73.5
Soft291B912 · 91 / 91
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m6114B876 · 114 / 87
2m1f – 2m4f291B87.52 · 91 / 87.5

Of 9 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 118A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Perth, 15 Aug 2026 Official rating 107 at the last run, 23 Sep 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 121A · median 111
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good4121A1154 · 121 / 115
Good to Soft2110A95.52 · 110 / 95.5
Soft2116A111.52 · 116 / 111.5
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m6121A1146 · 121 / 114
2m1f – 2m4f2110A108.52 · 110 / 108.5

Of 9 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 5 analysed runs

  • Prominent 3 (60%) · 0 wins
  • Led 1 (20%) · 1 win
  • Held up 1 (20%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,910 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm921415.2%+6.1—
Good to Firm2,47725610.3%+1.2—
Good3,1672648.3%−0.81 from 4
Good to Soft1,3381098.1%−10 from 2
Soft1,7111367.9%−1.20 from 3
Heavy4644910.6%+1.5—
Standard (AW)5,6615349.4%+0.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4,42950711.4%+2.3—
6f – 7f7,6166428.4%−0.7—
1m – 1m1f2,0371587.8%−1.3—
1m2f – 1m4f579447.6%−1.5—
1m5f – 2m17095.3%−3.81 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f6623%−6.10 from 2
2m5f – 3m1200%−9.1—
Over 3m100%−9.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 18 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rock Magic (IRE) (Rock Of Gibraltar)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Draiocht (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Draiocht (IRE)2211m—
Von Melas (IRE)150——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 4 1 25% −1.25
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 1 25% −1.25
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Perth 4 1 25% −1.25
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 7 1 14% −4.25
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Brian Hughes 4 1 25% −1.25
Donagh Meyler 3 0 0% −3.00
Ricky Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Darragh O'Keeffe 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 1 14% −4.25
Hood 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 8 1 13% −5.25
2025 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
23 Sep 26+16d Perth Bet With The Dewhurst Ring Handicap Hurdle Race (Go North Sea Pigeon Series Qualifier) Class 4 · 16f · Good · 10 ran Fought for control early - sat close to the pace - came under pressure and dropped away before 2 out - finished well held in 8th 8/10 nk 11-4 10783B87A Brian Hughes 9/1
07 Sep 26+23d Perth Auto Services Perth 24-Hour Recovery Handicap Hurdle Race Class 4 · 16f · Good · 8 ran Handy early - hit front approaching 2 out under pressure - soon passed and dropped away before last 4/8 7 11-2 109114B112A Brian Hughes 5/1
15 Aug 26+44d Perth Visit Perth Museum Maiden Hurdle Race (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16f · Good · 7 ran Went to the front and set the pace - saw off a rival's attempt 2 out and pulled clear - driven through on the run-in to score with authority 1/7 11-1 10976A118A Brian Hughes 7/4F
02 Jul 26+48d Perth Horizon Group Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16f · Good · 9 ran Handy near front - shared lead before two out then niggled along - still in with claims turning for home - stayed on but unable to reel in winner close second 2/9 ¾ 11-0 11199B121A Brian Hughes 12/1
15 May 26+27d Kilbeggan SIS Supporting Irish Racing Maiden Hurdle 15.5f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran Sat close to the front pack early - pushed along in 4th two out - dropped away late to finish 10th 10/14 1¼ 11-6 10963B81A Donagh Meyler 11/8F
18 Apr 26+18d Bellewstown Byrne Marquees Maiden Hurdle 17f · Yielding · 16 ran Sat close to the pace fighting for control early - 5th at halfway - improved into 3rd before 2 out - driven into 4th approaching the last but unable to close - held that position with no rally after finishing 5th 5/16 1¾ 10-13 —91B107A Ricky Doyle 10/1
31 Mar 26+45d Limerick Ryans Cleaning (C & G) Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 11 ran Settled in the pack early - 5th at halfway - moved into 4th approaching 3 out but found nothing more approaching the last - eased back to 5th on the run-in 5/11 2¼ 11-7 —91A116A Donagh Meyler 9/1
14 Feb 26+47d Haydock Richard Howard 80th Birthday Celebration Victor Ludorum Juvenile Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 15.5f · Soft · 7 ran Handy with front group early - driven to keep pace approaching 3 out then again soon after - unable to close and came down at the final fence F/7 — 11-0 ——— Donagh Meyler 50/1
29 Dec 25 Leopardstown Irish Stallion Farms EBF Academy Hurdle 18f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran Held up towards the back early - still down in 11th at halfway - moved forward wide to reach 6th approaching two out but had nothing more to offer late and finished 6th steadily 6/15 ¾ 11-0 —84B110A Darragh O'Keeffe 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Try Them (IRE) won?
Try Them (IRE) won 1 of 9 archived starts between 2025 and 2026, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trains Try Them (IRE)?
Try Them (IRE) is trained by Patrick Neville, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 23 September 2026.
Who is Try Them (IRE)'s sire?
Try Them (IRE) is by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Rock Magic (IRE), whose sire is Rock Of Gibraltar.
What going does Try Them (IRE) prefer?
Try Them (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Try Them (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 107, from the run on 23 September 2026. The highest on record is 111.
What is Try Them (IRE)'s sire's record?
Dandy Man (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,910 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.
Who are Try Them (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Rock Magic (IRE), Try Them (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Draiocht (IRE) (1). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2025. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.