Until I Win (FR)
Until I Win (FR) is 1 from 8. Hasn't won since Apr 2012.
- 1–8Wins / Runs
- 12.5%Strike rate
- 3 (37.5%)Placed
- −2.90£1 level staken=8 at SP
- 1.14Fair A/E n=8 · 0.99 incl. margin
- 50dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 7.9% of 910 runs since Jan 2008 (109 horses).
Weakest on standard (aw) going: 4.9% from 203.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 6 | 1 | 16.7% | +8.8 | — |
| Good | 174 | 11 | 6.3% | −1.6 | — |
| Good to Soft | 119 | 9 | 7.6% | −0.3 | — |
| Soft | 276 | 28 | 10.1% | +2.2 | 1 from 4 |
| Heavy | 130 | 13 | 10% | +2.1 | 0 from 4 |
| Standard (AW) | 203 | 10 | 4.9% | −3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 89 | 8 | 9% | +1.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 311 | 25 | 8% | +0.1 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 206 | 11 | 5.3% | −2.6 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 100 | 9 | 9% | +1.1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 66 | 4 | 6.1% | −1.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 115 | 12 | 10.4% | +2.5 | 1 from 6 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 22 | 3 | 13.6% | +5.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −7.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Tenor Du Maine (FR) (2 wins).
The wins came over 1m1½f–1m2f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tenor Du Maine (FR) | 23 | 2 | 1m1½f–1m2f | — |
| Milord Du Bourg (FR) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| La Belle Indienne (FR) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heavy | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Soft | 4 | 1 | 25% | +1.10 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Enghien (FR) | 4 | 1 | 25% | +1.10 |
| Auteuil (FR) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 6 | 1 | 17% | −0.90 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Benoit Gicquel | 5 | 1 | 20% | +0.10 |
| Gaetan Olivier | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 6 | 1 | 17% | −0.90 |
| 2011 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 · 6 runs | |||||||
| 27 Oct 12+139d | Enghien (FR) | Prix Roger Saint (Chase) () (4yo) (Turf) | 5/9 | 10 | 10-8 | Benoit Gicquel | 14/1 |
| 10 Jun 12+35d | Auteuil (FR) | Prix Katko (Chase) (Handicap) (4yo) (Turf) | PU/11 | — | 11-0 | Gaetan Olivier | 9/2 |
| 06 May 12+23d | Auteuil (FR) | Prix James Hennessy (Chase) () (4yo) (Turf) | 5/8 | 30 | 10-10 | Benoit Gicquel | 13/1 |
| 13 Apr 12+10d | Enghien (FR) | Prix De Manneville (Chase) (Handicap) (4yo) (Turf) | 1/12 | 10-11 | Benoit Gicquel | 41/10 | |
| 03 Apr 12+16d | Enghien (FR) | Prix De Dinard (Chase) (Conditions) (4yo) (Turf) | 2/7 | 8 | 10-6 | Benoit Gicquel | 58/10 |
| 18 Mar 12+119d | Auteuil (FR) | Prix De La Christiniere (Chase) (Conditions) (4yo) (Turf) | F/8 | — | 10-10 | Benoit Gicquel | 34/1 |
| 2011 · 2 runs | |||||||
| 20 Nov 11+11d | Auteuil (FR) | Prix Petit Bob (Chase) (Conditions) (3yo) (Turf) | PU/10 | — | 10-8 | Gaetan Olivier | 10/1 |
| 09 Nov 11 | Enghien (FR) | Prix Daniel Merle (Chase) (Conditions) (3yo) (Turf) | 2/10 | 15 | 10-8 | Gaetan Olivier | 33/10 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Until I Win won?
- Until I Win (FR) won 1 of 8 archived starts between 2011 and 2012, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 3 times in total (37.5% of starts).
- Who trained Until I Win?
- Until I Win (FR) was trained by Francois Nicolle on the most recent run on record, at Enghien (FR) on 27 October 2012.
- Who is Until I Win's sire?
- Until I Win (FR) is by Soave (GER) out of Milady Du Bourg (FR), whose sire is Mister Sicy.
- What going does Until I Win prefer?
- Until I Win (FR) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Until I Win's sire's record?
- Soave (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.9% of 910 runs since Jan 2008 (109 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 4.9% from 203.
- Who are Until I Win's siblings?
- Out of Milady Du Bourg (FR), Until I Win (FR) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Tenor Du Maine (FR) (2). The wins came over 1m1½f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.