Vague Notion (IRE)
Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Jun 2007, the last of them as a 3yo filly. Finished 10 of 11 at Curragh last time. By Grand Lodge (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008.
- 1–2Wins / Runs
- 50%Strike rate
- 1 (50%)Placed
- +6.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
- 87Highest OR
- 6dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses).
Strongest on good to firm going: 11.6% from 250. Weakest on soft going: 4.4% from 182.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 13 | 1 | 7.7% | −0.6 | — |
| Good to Firm | 250 | 29 | 11.6% | +3.3 | — |
| Good | 377 | 29 | 7.7% | −0.6 | — |
| Good to Soft | 169 | 9 | 5.3% | −3 | — |
| Soft | 182 | 8 | 4.4% | −3.9 | 1 from 2 |
| Heavy | 62 | 2 | 3.2% | −5.1 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 306 | 35 | 11.4% | +3.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 18 | 1 | 5.6% | −2.7 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 98 | 6 | 6.1% | −2.2 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 206 | 21 | 10.2% | +1.9 | 1 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 326 | 28 | 8.6% | +0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 378 | 31 | 8.2% | −0.1 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 212 | 21 | 9.9% | +1.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 99 | 5 | 5.1% | −3.2 | — |
| Over 3m | 22 | 0 | 0% | −8.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Utterly Heaven (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 7f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Utterly Heaven (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 7f | — |
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 30 Jun 07+6d | Curragh | Woodies DIY Derby Festival Handicap (60-100) | 10/11 | 2 | 9-1 | 87 | 50C | Pat Smullen | 9/2 |
| 24 Jun 07 | Gowran Park | Irish Stallion Farms EBF (Fillies) Maiden | 1/12 | 9-0 | — | 93C | Pat Smullen | 7/1 | |
Quick answers
- How many races has Vague Notion won?
- Vague Notion (IRE) won 1 of 2 archived starts in 2007, a strike rate of 50%. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).
- Who trained Vague Notion?
- Vague Notion (IRE) was trained by D K Weld on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 30 June 2007.
- Who is Vague Notion's sire?
- Vague Notion (IRE) is by Grand Lodge (USA) out of Epicure's Garden (USA), whose sire is Affirmed.
- What is Vague Notion's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 30 June 2007. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Vague Notion's sire's record?
- Grand Lodge (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 11.6% from 250. Weakest on soft going: 4.4% from 182.
- Who are Vague Notion's siblings?
- Out of Epicure's Garden (USA), Vague Notion (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Utterly Heaven (IRE) (1). The wins came over 7f. As at Oct 2026.