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Horse profile

Vague Notion (IRE)

3yo filly (at last run, Jun 2007) · Last trainer D K Weld · Last owner Moyglare Stud Farm
by Grand Lodge (USA) out of Epicure's Garden (USA) (Affirmed)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Jun 2007
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Jun 2007 — 7,060 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2007 · 10th of 11 Won at Gowran Park Last raced off OR 87
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Jun 2007, the last of them as a 3yo filly. Finished 10 of 11 at Curragh last time. By Grand Lodge (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 93C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Gowran Park, 24 Jun 2007 Official rating 87 at the last run, 30 Jun 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 93C · median 71.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft293C71.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f1———
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Grand Lodge (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 11.6% from 250. Weakest on soft going: 4.4% from 182.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1317.7%−0.6—
Good to Firm2502911.6%+3.3—
Good377297.7%−0.6—
Good to Soft16995.3%−3—
Soft18284.4%−3.91 from 2
Heavy6223.2%−5.1—
Standard (AW)3063511.4%+3.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1815.6%−2.7—
6f – 7f9866.1%−2.2—
1m – 1m1f2062110.2%+1.91 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f326288.6%+0.30 from 1
1m5f – 2m378318.2%−0.1—
2m1f – 2m4f212219.9%+1.6—
2m5f – 3m9955.1%−3.2—
Over 3m2200%−8.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Epicure's Garden (USA) (Affirmed)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Utterly Heaven (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 7f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Utterly Heaven (IRE)817f—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2007 · 2 runs
30 Jun 07+6d Curragh Woodies DIY Derby Festival Handicap (60-100) 10f · Soft · 11 ran 10/11 2 9-1 8750C Pat Smullen 9/2
24 Jun 07 Gowran Park Irish Stallion Farms EBF (Fillies) Maiden 9.5f · Yielding To Soft · 12 ran 1/12 9-0 —93C Pat Smullen 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Vague Notion won?
Vague Notion (IRE) won 1 of 2 archived starts in 2007, a strike rate of 50%. Placed 1 time in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Vague Notion?
Vague Notion (IRE) was trained by D K Weld on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 30 June 2007.
Who is Vague Notion's sire?
Vague Notion (IRE) is by Grand Lodge (USA) out of Epicure's Garden (USA), whose sire is Affirmed.
What is Vague Notion's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 30 June 2007. That is also the highest on record.
What is Vague Notion's sire's record?
Grand Lodge (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 11.6% from 250. Weakest on soft going: 4.4% from 182.
Who are Vague Notion's siblings?
Out of Epicure's Garden (USA), Vague Notion (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Utterly Heaven (IRE) (1). The wins came over 7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.