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Horse profile

Venture To Say (IRE)

10yo mare (at last run, Jan 2005) · Last trainer Michael Butler · Last owner James Butler
by Roselier (FR) out of Elfi (IRE) (Le Moss)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Jan 2005 — 7,949 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2005 · 7th of 16 Last raced off OR 76
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Jan 2005, the last of them as a 10yo mare. Finished 7 of 16 at Tramore last time. By Roselier (FR), whose progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 374 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 89C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Thurles, 6 Jan 2005 Official rating 76 at the last run, 30 Jan 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 89C · median 81
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Heavy1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m289C81—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Roselier (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 374 runs since Jan 2008 (71 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm300%−9.1—
Good to Firm2713.7%−5.4—
Good9277.6%−1.5—
Good to Soft8678.1%−1—
Soft9066.7%−2.40 from 1
Heavy761317.1%+80 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m700%−9.1—
2m1f – 2m4f811113.6%+4.5—
2m5f – 3m163127.4%−1.70 from 2
Over 3m123118.9%−0.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Elfi (IRE) (Le Moss)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Byrnes Cross (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Byrnes Cross (IRE)312m—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2005 · 2 runs
30 Jan 05+24d Tramore Saltan Properties Handicap Hurdle (70-88) 2m6f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 7/16 1½ 10-4 7673C M P Butler 8/1
06 Jan 05 Thurles Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (70-95) 3m · Soft · 18 ran 6/18 2 9-13 7689C M P Butler 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Venture To Say won?
Venture To Say (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2005.
Who trained Venture To Say?
Venture To Say (IRE) was trained by Michael Butler on the most recent run on record, at Tramore on 30 January 2005.
Who is Venture To Say's sire?
Venture To Say (IRE) is by Roselier (FR) out of Elfi (IRE), whose sire is Le Moss.
What is Venture To Say's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 76, from the run on 30 January 2005. That is also the highest on record.
What is Venture To Say's sire's record?
Roselier (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 374 runs since Jan 2008 (71 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Venture To Say's siblings?
Out of Elfi (IRE), Venture To Say (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Byrnes Cross (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.