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Horse profile

Way Back Then (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2017) · Last trainer Ben Pauling · Last owner Nicholas Piper Claire E Piper
by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Ashwell Lady (IRE) (Presenting)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Nov 2016
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Dec 2017 — 3,224 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2017 · 4th of 6 2 wins · Kempton & Ludlow
KTB Profile

Way Back Then (IRE) is 2 from 3, both wins coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Nov 2017. Each win came on a first visit to the course.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 4

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 144 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton, 13 Nov 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 144B · median 115
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Heavy1———
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
2m5f – 3m1———
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 131A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton, 13 Nov 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 131A · median 131
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Heavy1———
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
2m5f – 3m1———
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Robin Des Champs (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,007 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm4125%+11.7—
Good to Firm71912.7%−0.6—
Good1,07215914.8%+1.51 from 1
Good to Soft76210213.4%+0.11 from 1
Soft1,36515311.2%−2.1—
Heavy71710414.5%+1.20 from 1
Standard (AW)16318.8%+5.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−13.3—
1m2f – 1m4f13215.4%+2.1—
1m5f – 2m1,04514413.8%+0.51 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,54920813.4%+0.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m1,12513812.3%−11 from 1
Over 3m2743914.2%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ashwell Lady (IRE) (Presenting)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Tedwin Hills (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Tedwin Hills (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Tedwin Hills (IRE)2032m4f–2m7½fClass 4
Oscarsman (IRE)1612m4½fClass 4
Rob Robin (IRE)1012mClass 5
Garrantemple (IRE)20——
Queen Ella (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 1 100% +4.50
Good to Soft 1 1 100% +1.62

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 2 2 100% +6.12
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 1 100% +4.50
Ludlow 1 1 100% +1.62

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
2m5f – 3m 1 1 100% +4.50
1m5f – 2m 1 1 100% +1.62

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Nico de Boinville 1 0 0% −1.00
Daryl Jacob 1 1 100% +4.50
Tom Cannon 1 1 100% +1.62

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 2 1 50% +3.50
2016 1 1 100% +1.62

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 2 1 50% +3.50
NH Flat 1 1 100% +1.62

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 2 runs
30 Dec 17+47d Newbury Betfred Challow Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 20.5f · Heavy · 6 ran 4/6 2½ 11-7 104A114B Nico de Boinville 7/1
13 Nov 17+350d Kempton BetVictor Golden Goal Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 21f · Good · 14 ran 1/14 10-12 144B131A Daryl Jacob 9/2
2016 · 1 run
28 Nov 16 Ludlow Sign People Hereford Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 1/12 11-0 115B131A Tom Cannon 13/8F

Quick answers

How many races has Way Back Then won?
Way Back Then (IRE) won 2 of 3 archived starts between 2016 and 2017, a strike rate of 66.7%. Placed 2 times in total (66.7% of starts).
Who trained Way Back Then?
Way Back Then (IRE) was trained by Ben Pauling on the most recent run on record, at Newbury on 30 December 2017.
Who is Way Back Then's sire?
Way Back Then (IRE) is by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Ashwell Lady (IRE), whose sire is Presenting.
What is Way Back Then's sire's record?
Robin Des Champs (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,007 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Way Back Then's siblings?
Out of Ashwell Lady (IRE), Way Back Then (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Tedwin Hills (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Tedwin Hills (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m7½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.