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Horse profile

What Else (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2017) · Last trainer Jonjo O'Neill · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Accordello (IRE) (Accordion)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Jan 2017
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 24 Jan 2017 — 3,558 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2017 · 8th of 13
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Jan 2017, the last of them as a 6yo gelding. Finished 8 of 13 at Wetherby last time. By Flemensfirth (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 2 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 102C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Exeter, 1 Jan 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 102C · median 98.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.9—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.3—
Good4,05144110.9%−1—
Good to Soft2,93135412.1%+0.20 from 1
Soft5,87675112.8%+0.90 from 1
Heavy3,81444911.8%−0.1—
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.9—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.9—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.30 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f6,07772411.9%00 from 1
2m5f – 3m5,25462211.8%−0.1—
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Accordello (IRE) (Accordion)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Return To Base (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m1½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Return To Base (IRE)1322m–2m1½f—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
24 Jan 17+23d Wetherby Racing Uk In Glorious Hd 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 9 11-4 —95C Aidan Coleman 40/1
01 Jan 17 Exeter Billy Williams Memorial Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 12 ran 9/12 22 11-5 51C102C Richie McLernon 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has What Else (IRE) won?
What Else (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2017.
Who trained What Else (IRE)?
What Else (IRE) was trained by Jonjo O'Neill on the most recent run on record, at Wetherby on 24 January 2017.
Who is What Else (IRE)'s sire?
What Else (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Accordello (IRE), whose sire is Accordion.
What is What Else (IRE)'s sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are What Else (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Accordello (IRE), What Else (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Return To Base (IRE) (2). The wins came over 2m–2m1½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.