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Horse profile

When In Doubt (GB)

4yo filly (at last run, Jul 2015) · Last trainer G M Lyons · Last owner Qatar Racing Limited
by Montjeu (IRE) out of Ventura (IRE) (Spectrum)
9 runs · 8 courses · from Sep 2013
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Jul 2015 — 4,104 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2015 · 10th of 16 Last raced off OR 72
KTB Profile

When In Doubt (GB) is yet to win from 9 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 9 at Roscommon (May 2015).

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, When In Doubt (GB) has 3 produce in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Tetsworth (GB)110——
Lion Wait (GB)60——
Aura Of Melania (GB)80——
Official rating72↓ 7lb off peak
72 72–79

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 69A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Killarney, 15 Jul 2015 Official rating 72 at the last run, 28 Jul 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 5 figures · best 78A · median 67
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft478A68—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f378A69—
6f – 7f1———
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Montjeu (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 7,971 runs since Jan 2008 (665 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 16.3% from 686.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm5747%−5.3—
Good to Firm1,24215912.8%+0.50 from 1
Good2,14126212.2%−0.1—
Good to Soft1,11014813.3%+1—
Soft1,68219411.5%−0.80 from 7
Heavy68611216.3%+4—
Standard (AW)1,0531009.5%−2.80 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f600%−12.3—
6f – 7f330319.4%−2.90 from 1
1m – 1m1f8139711.9%−0.40 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f2,72436013.2%+0.90 from 5
1m5f – 2m2,42631312.9%+0.6—
2m1f – 2m4f1,15712210.5%−1.8—
2m5f – 3m4144510.9%−1.4—
Over 3m1011110.9%−1.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ventura (IRE) (Spectrum)

10 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Moonlight Cloud (GB) (12 wins).

The wins came over 6½f–2m1f; the highest grade won is Group 1 (Moonlight Cloud (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Moonlight Cloud (GB)18126½f–1mGroup 1
The Swagman (USA)1012m1fClass 5
Cedar Mountain (IRE)511m3fClass 5
Lakuta (IRE)311m2f—
Stars And Clouds (IRE)411m—
War Ensign (IRE)130——
Extreme Green (GB)20——
Newton Dancer (IRE)30——
Vouchsafe (IRE)40——
Velia (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Longchamp (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Pornichet-La Baule (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Lyon Parilly 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Colin Keane 5 0 0% −5.00
Jamie Spencer 2 0 0% −2.00
Alexis Badel 1 0 0% −1.00
Ronan Thomas 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 8 0 0% −8.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2015 6 0 0% −6.00
2014 1 0 0% −1.00
2013 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
28 Jul 15+13d Galway Caulfield Industrial Athlone Handicap (50-80) 7f · Yielding · 16 ran 10/16 2½ 9-8 7267A Colin Keane 8/1
15 Jul 15+35d Killarney Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Fillies Handicap 11f · Yielding · 9 ran 8/9 1¾ 9-3 7469A Colin Keane 7/1
10 Jun 15+23d Fairyhouse Book Your Hen Or Stag Party At Fairyhouse Handicap 12f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 7/7 18 9-9 7557C Colin Keane 5/1
18 May 15+30d Roscommon Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Fillies Maiden 12f · Soft · 9 ran 2/9 3½ 9-2 7778A Colin Keane 6/1
18 Apr 15+67d Navan 20 Family Ticket For May 17th Family Day Fillies Maiden 8f · Yielding · 16 ran 14/16 2 10-0 7961C Colin Keane 20/1
10 Feb 15+292d Pornichet-La Baule (FR) Prix de Groix (Conditions) (4yo Fillies) (Viscoride) 10.5f · Standard · 11 ran 4/11 ½ 8-9 —— Alexis Badel 37/10
24 Apr 14+186d Lyon Parilly Prix Louis Saulnier (Maiden) (Turf) 11f · Soft · 3 ran 2/3 1½ 9-2 —— Ronan Thomas 9/5F
20 Oct 13+39d Longchamp (FR) Prix de la Poterne des Peupliers (Maiden) (2yo Fillies) (Turf) 8f · Very Soft · 8 ran 2/8 hd 9-0 —— Jamie Spencer 27/10F
11 Sep 13 Longchamp (FR) Prix De La Cascade (Maiden) (Unraced 2yo Fillies) (Turf) 8f · Soft · 10 ran 5/10 shd 9-0 —— Jamie Spencer 19/5

Quick answers

How many races has When In Doubt (GB) won?
When In Doubt (GB) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2013 and 2015. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trained When In Doubt (GB)?
When In Doubt (GB) was trained by G M Lyons on the most recent run on record, at Galway on 28 July 2015.
Who is When In Doubt (GB)'s sire?
When In Doubt (GB) is by Montjeu (IRE) out of Ventura (IRE), whose sire is Spectrum.
What is When In Doubt (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 72, from the run on 28 July 2015. The highest on record is 79.
What is When In Doubt (GB)'s sire's record?
Montjeu (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 7,971 runs since Jan 2008 (665 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 16.3% from 686.
Who are When In Doubt (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Ventura (IRE), When In Doubt (GB) has 10 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Moonlight Cloud (GB) (12). Highest grade won: Group 1 (Moonlight Cloud (GB)). The wins came over 6½f–2m1f. As at Oct 2026.
Has When In Doubt (GB) produced winners?
As a dam, When In Doubt (GB) has 3 produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.