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Horse profile

Whosaidso (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2013) · Last trainer Denis W Cullen · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Saddlers' Hall (IRE) out of Mandalaw (IRE) (Mandalus)
24 runs · 12 courses · from Oct 2008
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Dec 2013 — 4,681 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2013 2 wins · Sligo & Fairyhouse Last raced off OR 108
KTB Profile

Whosaidso (IRE) is 2 from 24. Hasn't won since Oct 2013.

Based on 24 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
Official rating108↓ 1lb off peak
108 97–109

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 126A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sligo, 2 Oct 2013 Official rating 108 at the last run, 28 Dec 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 22 figures · best 133A · median 107.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft11127A103—
Heavy10133A119.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f12127A105.5—
1m5f – 2m7133A118—
2m5f – 3m3126A121—

Of 24 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 22 figures from 24 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Saddlers' Hall (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 4,861 runs since Jan 2008 (460 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm59610.2%+2.5—
Good to Firm482408.3%+0.6—
Good1,3511148.4%+0.7—
Good to Soft693547.8%+0.10 from 1
Soft1,317916.9%−0.80 from 11
Heavy940707.4%−0.32 from 12
Standard (AW)1915.3%−2.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−7.7—
1m – 1m1f200%−7.7—
1m2f – 1m4f2414.2%−3.5—
1m5f – 2m1,059777.3%−0.40 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f1,7231136.6%−1.10 from 13
2m5f – 3m1,5971469.1%+1.42 from 4
Over 3m455398.6%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Mandalaw (IRE) (Mandalus)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them The Cockney Squire (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (The Cockney Squire (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
The Cockney Squire (IRE)1522m–2m1fClass 4
Mandasini (IRE)612m—
Bob Klein (IRE)90——
Lady Marnay (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 12 2 17% +8.00
Soft 11 0 0% −11.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Punchestown 6 0 0% −6.00
Naas 4 0 0% −4.00
Navan 3 0 0% −3.00
Fairyhouse 2 1 50% +7.00
Gowran Park 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 1 100% +10.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 13 0 0% −13.00
1m5f – 2m 7 0 0% −7.00
2m5f – 3m 4 2 50% +16.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
A E Lynch 8 1 13% +1.00
Mark Walsh 6 1 17% +5.00
Niall P Madden 2 0 0% −2.00
A P McCoy 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr D W Cullen 2 0 0% −2.00
Mark Enright 1 0 0% −1.00
Jody McGarvey 1 0 0% −1.00
Keith Donoghue 1 0 0% −1.00
T G M Ryan 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 7 1 14% +4.00
2012 1 0 0% −1.00
2011 3 0 0% −3.00
2010 4 0 0% −4.00
2009 6 1 17% +3.00
2008 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 16 2 13% +4.00
Hurdle 6 0 0% −6.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
28 Dec 13+59d Limerick Emmett Leahy Millstream Memorial Veterans Handicap Chase (0-123) 22f · Heavy · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-12 108— Niall P Madden 6/1
30 Oct 13+28d Punchestown Punchestown Annual Membership 2014 Handicap Chase (0-116) 20f · Yielding To Soft · 14 ran 7/14 2 11-9 109106A Mark Walsh 13/2
02 Oct 13+163d Sligo St Angela's College Sligo Student Day At Sligo Races Handicap Chase (0-109) 24f · Heavy · 14 ran 1/14 11-8 104126A Mark Walsh 10/1
22 Apr 13+51d Cork Munster Handicap Chase (0-109) 16f · Heavy · 12 ran 3/12 12 11-10 104113A Mark Walsh 13/2
02 Mar 13+11d Navan Garlow Cross Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 20f · Soft · 19 ran 12/19 2 10-12 10298C Mark Walsh 12/1
19 Feb 13+44d Navan Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Heavy · 17 ran 2/17 2¾ 11-0 99133A Mark Enright 20/1
06 Jan 13+36d Naas Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Soft To Heavy · 15 ran 12/15 ¾ 11-4 10184C Jody McGarvey 10/1
01 Dec 12+632d Fairyhouse Fairyhouse On Facebook Hurdle 16f · Soft · 5 ran 5/5 28 11-2 —97C Mark Walsh 50/1
10 Mar 11+41d Clonmel Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase (0-123) 20f · Soft · 13 ran 2/13 10 11-0 109127A Keith Donoghue 7/1
28 Jan 11+26d Gowran Park Carey's Cottage Cup Handicap Chase (0-116) 20f · Soft · 14 ran 2/14 ½ 11-1 105122A A E Lynch 4/1F
02 Jan 11+50d Naas Tipper Road Handicap Chase (0-130) 20f · Soft · 11 ran 4/11 7 10-7 105108A Niall P Madden 9/1
13 Nov 10+17d Punchestown Thoroughbred Trails Handicap Chase (0-109) 20f · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran F/18 — 11-10 105— Mark Walsh 7/2F
27 Oct 10+234d Punchestown Punchestown Annual Membership Handicap Chase (0-116) 20f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 5/16 3 11-1 105107A A E Lynch 6/1
07 Mar 10+45d Naas Naas Racecourse Sunday Market Begins Next Sunday Handicap Chase (0-116) 19f · Yielding To Soft · 10 ran 5/10 8 11-5 105100A A E Lynch 3/1
21 Jan 10+21d Gowran Park Carey's Cottage Cup Handicap Chase (0-116) 20f · Heavy · 8 ran 4/8 13 11-1 105104A A P McCoy 6/4F
31 Dec 09+21d Punchestown Buy Your Punchestown Annual Membership For 2010 Handicap Chase (0-109) 16f · Heavy · 12 ran 2/12 10 11-12 104127A A E Lynch 7/4F
10 Dec 09+18d Fairyhouse New Years Day At Fairyhouse Handicap Chase (0-102) 21f · Heavy · 16 ran 1/16 11-8 97121A A E Lynch 8/1
22 Nov 09+16d Navan Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Beginners Chase 17f · Heavy · 17 ran 8/17 3 11-12 97105C A E Lynch 33/1
06 Nov 09+11d Down Royal J.w.j. Porter & Co Beginners Chase 20f · Soft · 18 ran 10/18 9 11-12 —100C A E Lynch 20/1
26 Oct 09+178d Galway W.B. Gavin & Co. E.B.F. Beginners Chase 22.5f · Soft · 18 ran 7/18 1 11-12 —100C A E Lynch 16/1
01 May 09+125d Punchestown Star Best For Racing Coverage Novice Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 5/16 2½ 11-5 —118A A P McCoy 16/1
27 Dec 08+49d Leopardstown Paddy Power Christmas Bumper Flat Race 20f · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran 5/16 ¾ 11-11 —111A Mr D W Cullen 3/1
08 Nov 08+23d Naas Racing Again At Naas 4th January Hurdle 19f · Soft · 24 ran 6/24 8 11-6 —103A T G M Ryan 16/1
16 Oct 08 Punchestown Star Of Tomorrow Inh Flat Race 16f · Soft To Heavy · 25 ran 3/25 4½ 11-11 —125A Mr D W Cullen 3/1F

Quick answers

How many races has Whosaidso (IRE) won?
Whosaidso (IRE) won 2 of 24 archived starts between 2008 and 2013, a strike rate of 8.3%. Placed 8 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Whosaidso (IRE)?
Whosaidso (IRE) was trained by Denis W Cullen on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 28 December 2013.
Who is Whosaidso (IRE)'s sire?
Whosaidso (IRE) is by Saddlers' Hall (IRE) out of Mandalaw (IRE), whose sire is Mandalus.
What going does Whosaidso (IRE) prefer?
Whosaidso (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 12 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Whosaidso (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 108, from the run on 28 December 2013. The highest on record is 109.
What is Whosaidso (IRE)'s sire's record?
Saddlers' Hall (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 4,861 runs since Jan 2008 (460 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Whosaidso (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Mandalaw (IRE), Whosaidso (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: The Cockney Squire (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (The Cockney Squire (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.