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Horse profile

Wishing And Hoping (IRE)

13yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2023) · Last trainer Mel Rowley · Last owner Mrs Peter Andrews
by Beneficial (GB) out of Desperately Hoping (IRE) (Un Desperado)
29 runs · 16 courses · from Dec 2014
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 29 Oct 2023 — 1,103 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2023 8 wins · 8 courses Last raced off OR 143
KTB Profile

Wishing And Hoping won eight of 29 starts on turf between Dec 2014 and Jan 2023. Three of those wins came over 2m5f to 3m and two over 3m, with four on soft ground and three on good. He won the Unibet Veterans Handicap Chase at Sandown in Jan 2023 off an official rating of 139 and the Jewson Tool Hire Veterans Handicap Chase at Aintree in Oct 2021 off 135. His last run, at Aintree in Oct 2023, was off an official rating of 143.

Based on 29 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
Official rating143↓ 3lb off peak
143 128–146

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 95 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Aintree, 3 Dec 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 16 figures · best 133C · median 83.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good to Soft7133C75—
Soft5101A90—
Good3124B118—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m9133C83—
Over 3m4101A78—
2m1f – 2m4f3118C95—

Of 23 runs looked at, 7 have no figure: did not complete (7).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 23 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 143A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sandown, 7 Jan 2023 Official rating 143 at the last run, 29 Oct 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 21 figures · best 145B · median 133
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Soft8143A133.5—
Good to Soft7145B131—
Good5141A130—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m9145B134—
1m5f – 2m5133A124—
Over 3m4141A140—
2m1f – 2m4f3136A135—

Of 29 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (8).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 29 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Beneficial (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,046 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm6657.6%−2.8—
Good to Firm93910711.4%+1—
Good5,29754910.4%03 from 6
Good to Soft2,46726710.8%+0.41 from 11
Soft5,05751910.3%−0.14 from 10
Heavy3,15932810.4%00 from 2
Standard (AW)6169.8%−0.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−10.4—
1m – 1m1f10110%−0.4—
1m2f – 1m4f6457.8%−2.6—
1m5f – 2m4,89050210.3%−0.13 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f6,35666110.4%00 from 7
2m5f – 3m4,70252211.1%+0.73 from 10
Over 3m1,022908.8%−1.62 from 7

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 6 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Desperately Hoping (IRE) (Un Desperado)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Clody Valley (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m7f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Nelly La Rue (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Clody Valley (IRE)2921m7f–2m4f—
Nelly La Rue (IRE)2213mClass 4
Lilmaurice (IRE)10——
Murphys Filly (IRE)80——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 11 1 9% −7.00
Soft 10 4 40% +50.12
Good 6 3 50% +4.66
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 9 2 22% +45.75
Class 1 7 0 0% −7.00
Class 3 6 1 17% −1.00
Class 6 3 3 100% +8.62
Class 5 3 2 67% +0.41
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Aintree 6 1 17% −2.25
Haydock 3 0 0% −3.00
Ascot 2 1 50% +3.00
Cheltenham 2 0 0% −2.00
Warwick 2 0 0% −2.00
Kempton 2 0 0% −2.00
Wincanton 2 1 50% +3.00
Plumpton 2 1 50% −0.09
Kelso 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 1 100% +50.00
Worcester 1 1 100% +3.00
Catterick 1 1 100% +0.50
Taunton 1 1 100% +1.62
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 10 3 30% +47.62
Over 3m 7 2 29% −1.75
2m1f – 2m4f 7 0 0% −7.00
1m5f – 2m 5 3 60% +6.91

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Alex Edwards 16 4 25% +42.87
Wayne Hutchinson 9 2 22% −2.09
Mr Zac Baker 1 1 100% +3.00
Bryony Frost 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Cannon 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Johnson 1 1 100% +4.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 26 8 31% +48.78
Cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 4 1 25% +47.00
2022 6 0 0% −6.00
2021 5 2 40% +2.75
2020 3 2 67% +1.12
2017 2 0 0% −2.00
2016 4 0 0% −4.00
2015 4 2 50% +2.91
2014 1 1 100% +4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 21 5 24% +41.87
Hurdle 5 2 40% +1.91
NH Flat 3 1 33% +2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 4 runs
29 Oct 23+210d Aintree Jewson Vieux Lion Rouge Veterans' Handicap Chase Class 2 · 3m1f · Good To Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 12-0 143—— Alex Edwards 10/1
02 Apr 23+29d Ascot Memberships At Ascot Veterans' Handicap Chase Class 2 · 3m · Good To Soft · 6 ran 4/6 9½ 11-9 14575A131B Alex Edwards 9/1
04 Mar 23+56d Kelso bet365 Premier Chase (Listed) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 2m7½f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 4/4 37 11-2 14662C103C Alex Edwards 9/1
07 Jan 23+35d Sandown Unibet Veterans' Handicap Chase (2022 Veterans' Chase Series Final) Class 2 · 3m · Soft · 18 ran 1/18 11-7 13983B143A Alex Edwards 50/1
2022 · 6 runs
03 Dec 22+41d Aintree BoyleSports Daily Money Back 2nd Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 3¾ 11-8 14295B121A Alex Edwards 25/1
23 Oct 22+197d Aintree Jewson Widnes Vieux Lion Rouge Veterans' Handicap Chase Class 2 · 3m1f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 2/11 8½ 11-6 14272B140A Alex Edwards 7/1
09 Apr 22+23d Aintree Betway Handicap Chase (Grade 3) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 3m1f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 6/14 3 10-11 14369B119A Alex Edwards 25/1
17 Mar 22+33d Cheltenham Craft Irish Whiskey Co. Plate Handicap Chase (Grade 3) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 2m4½f · Soft · 15 ran PU/15 — 10-13 145—— Alex Edwards 40/1
12 Feb 22+28d Warwick Virgin Bet Warwick Castle Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 ¾ 11-1 14276A136A Alex Edwards 22/1
15 Jan 22+42d Kempton Coral Committed To Safer Gambling Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 3m · Soft · 8 ran 3/8 8½ 11-7 14390A134A Alex Edwards 7/1
2021 · 5 runs
04 Dec 21+41d Aintree Unibet Many Clouds Chase (Grade 2) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 3m1f · Soft · 8 ran PU/8 — 11-0 145—— Alex Edwards 12/1
24 Oct 21+156d Aintree Jewson Tool Hire Veterans' Handicap Chase Class 2 · 3m1f · Good · 7 ran 1/7 10-13 13584A141A Alex Edwards 11/4
21 May 21+63d Worcester West Midlands Area Open Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 2m7f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 1/5 12-4 135133C145B Mr Zac Baker 3/1
19 Mar 21+27d Cheltenham St. James's Place Festival Challenge Cup Open Hunters' Chase Class 2 · 3m2½f · Good To Soft · 18 ran PU/18 — 12-0 137—— Bryony Frost 50/1
20 Feb 21+353d Haydock Follow willhillracing On Twitter Open Hunters' Chase Class 3 · 2m6f · Soft · 10 ran 2/10 17 11-5 13726A134B Alex Edwards 4/1
2020 · 3 runs
04 Mar 20+18d Catterick Support Jack Berry House Novices' Hunters' Chase Class 5 · 3m1f · Soft · 6 ran 1/6 12-2 137101A140B Alex Edwards 1/2F
15 Feb 20+39d Haydock Unibet Walrus Open Hunters' Chase Class 3 · 2m6f · Heavy · 4 ran 2/4 3¾ 12-1 13757C135B Alex Edwards 4/6F
07 Jan 20+815d Taunton Geoffrey Bosley 'Tally Ho' Open Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 2m7f · Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-12 12892A132B Alex Edwards 13/8
2017 · 2 runs
14 Oct 17+231d Chepstow totepool Silver Trophy Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 2m3½f · Good To Soft · 18 ran F/18 — 10-4 128—— Wayne Hutchinson 16/1
25 Feb 17+74d Kempton Racing Uk Hd Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m5f · Good · 13 ran 3/13 4 11-5 128124B125A Tom Cannon 8/1
2016 · 4 runs
13 Dec 16+29d Wincanton Be Wiser Insurance Beginners' Chase Class 3 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 8 ran F/8 — 11-0 128—— Wayne Hutchinson 9/1
14 Nov 16+20d Plumpton Sis Novices' Chase Class 3 · 2m3½f · Good · 4 ran F/4 — 11-2 ——— Wayne Hutchinson 7/4
25 Oct 16+283d Bangor-on-Dee Download The Timeform App Novices' Chase Class 4 · 2m4½f · Good · 4 ran 2/4 1¼ 10-12 —118C135B Wayne Hutchinson 5/2
16 Jan 16+57d Warwick Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) (Registered As The Leamington Novices' Hurdle) Class 1 · 2m5f · Heavy · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-7 130—— Wayne Hutchinson 20/1
2015 · 4 runs
20 Nov 15+32d Ascot Robert Giles Agencies Introductory Hurdle Class 3 · 1m7½f · Soft · 6 ran 1/6 11-5 ——124B Wayne Hutchinson 4/1
19 Oct 15+198d Plumpton Geoffrey Budd Partnership Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 2m · Good · 9 ran 1/9 11-0 ——115B Wayne Hutchinson 10/11F
04 Apr 15+56d Haydock 888sport Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 1m7½f · Soft · 9 ran 4/9 ½ 11-9 ——124A Wayne Hutchinson 7/2
07 Feb 15+65d Newbury Read Paul Nicholls Exclusively On Betfair Bumper (Standard Open NH Flat Race) (Listed) Class 1 · 2m½f · Soft · 11 ran 5/11 5 11-3 ——133A Wayne Hutchinson 25/1
2014 · 1 run
04 Dec 14 Wincanton New Racing UK Anywhere Available Now Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 1m7½f · Good · 14 ran 1/14 11-4 ——130A Richard Johnson 4/1

Quick answers

How many races has Wishing And Hoping won?
Wishing And Hoping (IRE) won 8 of 29 archived starts between 2014 and 2023, a strike rate of 27.6%. Placed 13 times in total (44.8% of starts).
Who trained Wishing And Hoping?
Wishing And Hoping (IRE) was trained by Mel Rowley on the most recent run on record, at Aintree on 29 October 2023.
Who is Wishing And Hoping's sire?
Wishing And Hoping (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Desperately Hoping (IRE), whose sire is Un Desperado.
What going does Wishing And Hoping prefer?
Wishing And Hoping (IRE) has the best record on good going: 3 wins from 6 starts (50%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Wishing And Hoping's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 143, from the run on 29 October 2023. The highest on record is 146.
What is Wishing And Hoping's sire's record?
Beneficial (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,046 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Wishing And Hoping's siblings?
Out of Desperately Hoping (IRE), Wishing And Hoping (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Clody Valley (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Nelly La Rue (IRE)). The wins came over 1m7f–3m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from December 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.