You Never Said (IRE)
You Never Said (IRE) is yet to win from 6 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 10 at Folkestone (Dec 2008). Last raced off a career-high mark of 108.
- 0–6Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (33.3%)Placed
- −6.00£1 level staken=6 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=6 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 108Highest OR
- 113dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 1,917 runs since Jan 2008 (149 horses).
Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 13.7% from 139.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 11 | 0 | 0% | −9.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 162 | 23 | 14.2% | +4.5 | — |
| Good | 544 | 55 | 10.1% | +0.4 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 290 | 23 | 7.9% | −1.8 | 0 from 3 |
| Soft | 548 | 54 | 9.9% | +0.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 325 | 26 | 8% | −1.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 37 | 5 | 13.5% | +3.8 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −9.7 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 14 | 3 | 21.4% | +11.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 26 | 1 | 3.8% | −5.9 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 430 | 41 | 9.5% | −0.2 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 693 | 72 | 10.4% | +0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 613 | 50 | 8.2% | −1.5 | — |
| Over 3m | 139 | 19 | 13.7% | +4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Uttoxeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bangor-on-Dee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Catterick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Folkestone | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ascot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| A P McCoy | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jimmy McCarthy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Paddy Brennan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tom Scudamore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tongue tie | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| None | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2008 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| NH Flat | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 10 Jun 10+75d | Uttoxeter | Jenkinsons Caterers First Choice For Weddings Maiden Hurdle | 6/13 | 21 | 11-0 | 108 | 92C | A P McCoy | 9/2 |
| 27 Mar 10+20d | Bangor-on-Dee | Puredarts.co.uk 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle | 4/8 | 3¾ | 11-0 | 108 | 112A | Jimmy McCarthy | 7/1 |
| 07 Mar 10+434d | Huntingdon | Racing Uk Horseracing In Your Home Maiden Hurdle | 3/13 | 1¾ | 11-1 | — | 122A | A P McCoy | 4/1 |
| 2008 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 28 Dec 08+12d | Catterick | Blue Square Mobile Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) | F/16 | — | 11-6 | — | — | Paddy Brennan | 3/1F |
| 16 Dec 08+24d | Folkestone | Jingle Bells Novices' Hurdle (Div 1) | 2/10 | 9 | 11-4 | — | 117A | A P McCoy | 7/2 |
| 22 Nov 08 | Ascot | Allied Irish Bank (GB) Standard Open NH Flat Race | 6/14 | 2¼ | 11-0 | — | 107A | Tom Scudamore | 8/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has You Never Said won?
- You Never Said (IRE) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2008 and 2010. Placed 2 times in total (33.3% of starts).
- Who trained You Never Said?
- You Never Said (IRE) was trained by Charles Egerton on the most recent run on record, at Uttoxeter on 10 June 2010.
- Who is You Never Said's sire?
- You Never Said (IRE) is by Dushyantor (USA) out of Bramblehill Mandy (IRE), whose sire is Mandalus.
- What is You Never Said's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 108, from the run on 10 June 2010. That is also the highest on record.
- What is You Never Said's sire's record?
- Dushyantor (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 1,917 runs since Jan 2008 (149 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 13.7% from 139.