You Say I Say (USA)
Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Nov 2008 and May 2009, the last of them as a 3yo filly. Finished 6 of 11 at Salisbury last time. By Special Red Warrior (USA), whose progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 143 runs since Apr 2008.
- 0–2Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −2.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
- 194dBetween runs (median)
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 143 runs since Apr 2008 (14 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | +20.7 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 22 | 5 | 22.7% | +10.1 | — |
| Good | 45 | 5 | 11.1% | −1.5 | — |
| Good to Soft | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 11 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| Heavy | 4 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 46 | 7 | 15.2% | +2.6 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 5 | 1 | 20% | +7.4 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 23 | 4 | 17.4% | +4.8 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 38 | 5 | 13.2% | +0.6 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 31 | 3 | 9.7% | −2.9 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 33 | 3 | 9.1% | −3.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 8 | 1 | 12.5% | −0.1 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5 | 1 | 20% | +7.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
7 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Stomachion (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 1m–1m6½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Stomachion (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stomachion (IRE) | 15 | 4 | 1m2f–1m6½f | Class 2 |
| Hand On Heart (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 1m | — |
| Shall We (IRE) | 7 | 1 | 1m2f | Class 5 |
| Izanagi (USA) | 6 | 1 | 1m2f | — |
| Flaming Cliffs (USA) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Gopher (USA) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Aspasi (GB) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 14 May 09+194d | Salisbury | Sportingbet.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes | 6/11 | 1 | 8-7 | 59A | Louis-Philippe Beuzelin | 7/1 |
| 2008 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 01 Nov 08 | Newmarket | Casino At bet365.com E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div 1) | 8/17 | nk | 9-0 | 67A | Richard Mullen | 14/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has You Say I Say won?
- You Say I Say (USA) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2008 and 2009.
- Who trained You Say I Say?
- You Say I Say (USA) was trained by Sir Michael Stoute on the most recent run on record, at Salisbury on 14 May 2009.
- Who is You Say I Say's sire?
- You Say I Say (USA) is by Special Red Warrior (USA) out of Keen Kas (FR), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
- What is You Say I Say's sire's record?
- Special Red Warrior (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 143 runs since Apr 2008 (14 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are You Say I Say's siblings?
- Out of Keen Kas (FR), You Say I Say (USA) has 7 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Stomachion (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Stomachion (IRE)). The wins came over 1m–1m6½f. As at Nov 2026.