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You Say Its Over (IRE)

7yo mare (at last run, Dec 2025) · Trainer Micky Hammond · Owner The Rat Pack Racing Club
25 runs · 13 courses · from Jul 2022
As at 8 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Last run 27 Dec 2025 Last raced off OR 69
KTB Profile

You Say Its Over is a maiden who has failed to win in 25 starts on turf and has placed five times. Her best effort came when second of 11 at Catterick in Jan 2024. She has raced 13 times over 2m5f – 3m without success and has never won on good to soft or heavy ground. Aged 7 at her last run in Dec 2025 she finished in the William Hill Daily Bet Boosts Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle at Wetherby off an official rating of 69.

Based on 25 archived runs · run-style from 11 commented runs since Oct 2024 · updated 8 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 16lb off peak
Official rating69↓ 16lb off peak
69 69–85

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 89 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Hexham, 14 Apr 2025

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 18 figures · best 124A · median 85.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
Good8112A85.5—
Good to Soft7112B76—
Heavy290B88—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m9112B86—
2m1f – 2m4f6112A87.5—
Over 3m3124A76—

Of 25 runs looked at, 7 have no figure: did not complete (3) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 25 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 88A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Hexham, 14 Apr 2025 Official rating 69 at the last jumps run, 27 Dec 2025

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 54C the best of the last 1 rated run · Cork, 10 Apr 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 21 figures · best 106A · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
Good to Soft896B82.5—
Good896A86.5—
Heavy3100A89—
Soft2106A96.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 8 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m11100A85—
2m1f – 2m4f696A86.5—
Over 3m3106A82—
1m5f – 2m1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 25 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 22 figures from 25 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 11 analysed runs since Oct 2024

  • Prominent 5 (45%) · 0 wins
  • Mid-division 3 (27%) · 0 wins
  • Led 2 (18%) · 0 wins
  • Held up 1 (9%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 1,657 runs since Apr 2019 (206 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 5.4% from 168.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm32618.8%+9.7—
Good5555910.6%+1.50 from 10
Good to Soft418399.3%+0.20 from 8
Soft383318.1%−10 from 4
Heavy16895.4%−3.70 from 3
Standard (AW)10176.9%−2.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f500%−9.1—
6f – 7f4137.3%−1.8—
1m – 1m1f4312.3%−6.8—
1m2f – 1m4f9966.1%−3—
1m5f – 2m5165410.5%+1.40 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f587559.4%+0.30 from 6
2m5f – 3m304237.6%−1.50 from 13
Over 3m62914.5%+5.40 from 4

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2019 · as at 8 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

4 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Sweet Street (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m2½f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Coolnav (IRE)).

Family form: Coolnav (IRE) won at Newbury, 5 Nov 2026.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Sweet Street (IRE)3832m4f–3mClass 4
Something Sweet (IRE)5722m2½f–2m4f—
New Quay (IRE)1512m3½fClass 4
Coolnav (IRE)512m3fClass 3

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 10 0 0% −10.00
Good to Soft 8 0 0% −8.00
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 17 0 0% −17.00
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Hexham 6 0 0% −6.00
Catterick 4 0 0% −4.00
Wetherby 2 0 0% −2.00
Uttoxeter 2 0 0% −2.00
Cartmel 2 0 0% −2.00
Cork 2 0 0% −2.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 13 0 0% −13.00
2m1f – 2m4f 6 0 0% −6.00
Over 3m 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Brian Hughes 6 0 0% −6.00
Conor O'Farrell 5 0 0% −5.00
Alice Stevens 4 0 0% −4.00
Mr M J McGrath 4 0 0% −4.00
Danny McMenamin 3 0 0% −3.00
Joshua Thompson 3 0 0% −3.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 18 0 0% −18.00
Cheekpieces 6 0 0% −6.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2025 8 0 0% −8.00
2024 6 0 0% −6.00
2023 8 0 0% −8.00
2022 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 14 0 0% −14.00
Chase 7 0 0% −7.00
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2025 · 8 runs
27 Dec 25+36d Wetherby William Hill Daily Bet Boosts Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m · Soft · 16 ran Settled towards the back of the field - urged into contention 8th before dropping away - eased out of contention approaching 3 out PU/16 — 10-2 69—— Alice Stevens 50/1
21 Nov 25+14d Catterick Racing To School Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m1f · Good · 7 ran Held up in the pack - driven after the 11th and dropped away soon after - pulled up before three out PU/7 — 10-2 71—— Alice Stevens 22/1
07 Nov 25+35d Hexham Old Rondo At 80 Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m · Good To Soft · 11 ran Settled in the pack early - pushed along and slipped towards the back before the 12th - lost touch before the 14th and made no dent on the leaders approaching the last 8/11 2½ 10-2 7146C75C Alice Stevens 5/1F
03 Oct 25+172d Hexham Lee 'Bazza' Jenkinson Memorial Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m · Good To Soft · 9 ran Settled in the pack early - urged forward after the 13th - dropped away from the front group four out - stayed on steadily home turn and up the run-in to finish third 3/9 1¼ 9-11 7138A74C Alice Stevens 18/1
14 Apr 25+31d Hexham View Our Show Static Caravan Today Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m · Good · 14 ran Sat close to front early - driven to keep place but slipped back approaching final bend - dropped away shortly after and held on for fourth 4/14 12 10-2 7189B88A Danny McMenamin 9/1
14 Mar 25+32d Doncaster LiveScore Bet Best Odds Daily Mares' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m2f · Good · 5 ran Tracked leaders tightly on the rail - urged forward approaching 4 out - shifted wide to move up into 2nd before the following fence - driven but headed for that spot before 2 out and held on for 3rd without finding more 3/5 14 10-7 7266C78B Danny McMenamin 10/3
10 Feb 25+19d Catterick Jumping For Joy On Racing TV Mares' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m1f · Good To Soft · 7 ran Set the pace until before the 4th - tracking in second and asked for effort on the home turn - still up with the front group but slipped from third 2 out - dropped away after that to finish fourth 4/7 2½ 10-2 7276B82B Danny McMenamin 12/1
22 Jan 25+57d Catterick Start Your RacingTV Free Trial Now Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3f · Good To Soft · 10 ran Near the front early - dropped away by the 4th - trailing badly by the 13th to finish sixth 6/10 3 10-6 7445A81A Conor O'Farrell 12/1
2024 · 6 runs
26 Nov 24+21d Southwell Free Tips Daily On attheraces.com Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m½f · Good · 6 ran Sat close to the pace early - pushed along and dropped back after 3 out - faded approaching 2 out - eventually well held in 6th 6/6 5 10-1 7665A67B Joshua Thompson 11/1
05 Nov 24+30d Sedgefield Hardwick Hall Hotel Sedgefield Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m5f · Good · 12 ran Set the pace early - challenged for command before 3 out then squeezed for effort as rivals came alongside - still close up 2 out - dropped away quickly after finishing eighth 8/12 hd 10-0 7786B85A Joshua Thompson 8/1
06 Oct 24+223d Uttoxeter Century Racing Club Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4f · Good · 11 ran Sat close to the front group early - asked for effort and lost ground before 3 out - never in the hunt from there - finished 4th well beaten 4/11 3¾ 10-4 7799C86C Joshua Thompson 50/1
26 Feb 24+32d Ayr Coral Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m½f · Heavy · 6 ran 4/6 9 10-8 7986A81B Conor O'Farrell 10/3
25 Jan 24+14d Wetherby Racing Tv Profits Returned To Racing Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m · Soft · 10 ran 6/10 8½ 10-10 80—87A Brian Hughes 8/1
11 Jan 24+29d Catterick racingtv.com Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m1½f · Soft · 11 ran 2/11 2¼ 10-7 78124A106A Brian Hughes 17/2
2023 · 8 runs
13 Dec 23+33d Hexham Look Forward To Seeing You In 2024 Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m7½f · Heavy · 6 ran 2/6 17 10-7 79—89B Brian Hughes 5/1
10 Nov 23+58d Hexham Download The N-E Bet App Today Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m7½f · Heavy · 8 ran 2/8 1½ 10-7 7890B100A Brian Hughes 12/1
13 Sep 23+16d Uttoxeter Cambion Electronics 'Smarter Together' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m7½f · Good · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-12 85—— Brian Hughes 25/1
28 Aug 23+50d Cartmel EWGA Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 2m6f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 6/9 nk 10-9 8182A83A Brian Hughes 6/1
09 Jul 23+9d Market Rasen Europa Industries Mares' Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4½f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 3 11-2 —68B96A Conor O'Farrell 10/1
30 Jun 23+5d Cartmel Fred And Edna Taylor Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m6f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 2/7 10 10-11 —112B96B Conor O'Farrell 33/1
25 Jun 23+76d Hexham View Our Static Caravans Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 ½ 10-11 —112A87A Conor O'Farrell 50/1
10 Apr 23+234d Cork Cork & Waterford Mares Point-To-Point Flat Race 2m · Yielding To Soft · 9 ran 6/9 8½ 11-4 ——54C Mr M J McGrath 12/1
2022 · 3 runs
19 Aug 22+25d Killarney KWD Recycling Flat Race 2m1f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 13/14 23 10-11 —90C83C Mr M J McGrath 33/1
25 Jul 22+17d Galway Monami Construction Flat Race 2m½f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran 11/15 1¾ 10-7 ——83A Mr M J McGrath 125/1
08 Jul 22 Cork Way To Paris At Coolagown Stud Flat Race 2m1f · Good · 17 ran 10/17 4¼ 10-7 —85B89A Mr M J McGrath 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has You Say Its Over won?
You Say Its Over (IRE) has yet to win, from 25 archived starts between 2022 and 2025. Placed 5 times in total (20% of starts).
Who trains You Say Its Over?
You Say Its Over (IRE) is trained by Micky Hammond, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 27 December 2025.
Who is You Say Its Over's sire?
You Say Its Over (IRE) is by Kingston Hill (GB) out of Beg La Eile (IRE), whose sire is Lahib.
What is You Say Its Over's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 69, from the run on 27 December 2025. The highest on record is 85.
What is You Say Its Over's sire's record?
Kingston Hill (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 1,657 runs since Apr 2019 (206 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 5.4% from 168.
Who are You Say Its Over's siblings?
Out of Beg La Eile (IRE), You Say Its Over (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Sweet Street (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Coolnav (IRE)). The wins came over 2m2½f–3m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from July 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.