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Horse profile

Back And Firth (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2010) · Last trainer P J Rothwell · Last owner Same Again Syndicate
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Lizzie Simms (IRE) (Phardante)
16 runs · 9 courses · from May 2006
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 8 Aug 2010 — 5,924 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2010 Last raced off OR 80
KTB Profile

Back And Firth (IRE) is yet to win from 16 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 18 at Limerick (May 2007).

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
Official rating80↓ 6lb off peak
80 80–86

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 96A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Tipperary, 18 Jun 2009 Official rating 80 at the last run, 8 Aug 2010

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 11 figures · best 112C · median 90
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Soft596A90—
Heavy391C87—
Good296C85—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m5112C91—
2m1f – 2m4f496C87.5—
1m5f – 2m291C89—

Of 16 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,280 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.8—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.20 from 3
Good4,05344110.9%−0.90 from 4
Good to Soft2,93235412.1%+0.3—
Soft5,87675112.8%+10 from 5
Heavy3,81744911.8%00 from 4
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.8—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.8—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.40 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f6,08072411.9%+0.10 from 7
2m5f – 3m5,25762211.8%00 from 7
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Lizzie Simms (IRE) (Phardante)

4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Hoback Junction (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Hoback Junction (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Hoback Junction (IRE)1422m–2m4½fClass 4
Gold Sequin (IRE)40——
Confitzack (IRE)100——
Bernies Island (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Heavy 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Downpatrick 3 0 0% −3.00
Limerick 3 0 0% −3.00
Clonmel 3 0 0% −3.00
Sligo 2 0 0% −2.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 7 0 0% −7.00
2m1f – 2m4f 7 0 0% −7.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
John Allen 5 0 0% −5.00
Adam O'Neill 4 0 0% −4.00
Declan Bates 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Jackson 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr C D Sharkey 1 0 0% −1.00
Barry Geraghty 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Derek O'Connor 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr G J Power 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr K E Power 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 14 0 0% −14.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2010 2 0 0% −2.00
2009 5 0 0% −5.00
2007 3 0 0% −3.00
2006 6 0 0% −6.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 12 0 0% −12.00
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2010 · 2 runs
08 Aug 10+84d Downpatrick Keeping It Country Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 1) 23f · Good · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-4 80— Declan Bates 14/1
16 May 10+235d Limerick Limerick G.A.A. Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 19f · Good · 18 ran 11/18 1¼ 10-12 8174C Shane Jackson 14/1
2009 · 5 runs
23 Sep 09+48d Downpatrick Denny E.B.F Beginners Chase 23f · Good To Firm · 15 ran PU/15 — 11-12 —— John Allen 33/1
06 Aug 09+49d Sligo Bet On Course With Tote Maiden Hurdle 24f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 10/16 30 11-4 8191C John Allen 14/1
18 Jun 09+11d Tipperary Roscrea Active Retirement Handicap Hurdle (81-130) 24f · Yielding · 13 ran 4/13 13 9-10 8696A John Allen 20/1
07 Jun 09+35d Wexford Poolcourt Ltd. Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 18f · Good · 16 ran F/16 — 10-12 81— John Allen 20/1
03 May 09+710d Sligo Belfry (q.r.) Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 18f · Heavy · 16 ran PU/16 — 11-1 83— Mr C D Sharkey 20/1
2007 · 3 runs
24 May 07+7d Clonmel Cashel Maiden Hurdle 20f · Good To Firm · 17 ran PU/17 — 10-11 83— Adam O'Neill 14/1
17 May 07+10d Limerick Bank Of Ireland Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 19f · Good · 18 ran 7/18 2½ 10-11 8696C Barry Geraghty 5/1F
07 May 07+129d Limerick U-bet Bookmaker (QR) Handicap Hurdle (74-102) (Div 1) 24f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 2/18 1¾ 11-1 82112C Mr Derek O'Connor 12/1
2006 · 6 runs
29 Dec 06+44d Leopardstown Bewleys Hotel Leopardstown Maiden Hurdle 20f · Heavy · 14 ran 13/14 10 11-5 —87C Adam O'Neill 66/1
15 Nov 06+14d Downpatrick I.N.H. Stallion Owners EBF Maiden Hurdle 22f · Soft · 15 ran 6/15 5½ 10-11 8084C Adam O'Neill 25/1
01 Nov 06+10d Punchestown Kildare Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) 22f · Soft · 17 ran 7/17 14 11-4 —90C John Allen 25/1
22 Oct 06+20d Clonmel Killahora (pro-am) Inh Flat Race 20f · Soft · 17 ran 13/17 8 11-7 —88C Adam O'Neill 20/1
02 Oct 06+130d Roscommon Knockcroghery Inh Flat Race 16f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 10/16 13 11-9 —87C Mr G J Power 14/1
25 May 06 Clonmel Kilsheelan Inh Flat Race 16f · Soft · 16 ran 7/16 6 11-10 —91C Mr K E Power 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has Back And Firth won?
Back And Firth (IRE) has yet to win, from 16 archived starts between 2006 and 2010. Placed 1 time in total (6.3% of starts).
Who trained Back And Firth?
Back And Firth (IRE) was trained by P J Rothwell on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 8 August 2010.
Who is Back And Firth's sire?
Back And Firth (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Lizzie Simms (IRE), whose sire is Phardante.
What is Back And Firth's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 80, from the run on 8 August 2010. The highest on record is 86.
What is Back And Firth's sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,280 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Back And Firth's siblings?
Out of Lizzie Simms (IRE), Back And Firth (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Hoback Junction (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Hoback Junction (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m4½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2006. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.