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Horse profile

Cant Pay Wont Pay (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, May 2018) · Last trainer Rose Dobbin · Last owner George Delahunt
by Flying Legend (USA) out of Kadastrofs Prize (IRE) (Kadastrof)
18 runs · 10 courses · from Dec 2014
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 May 2018 — 3,105 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2018 · 5th of 16 Won at Downpatrick Last raced off OR 80
KTB Profile

Cant Pay Wont Pay (IRE) is 1 from 18. Hasn't won since May 2017. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 12 on softer). Last raced off 80, 15lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 18 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster OR ↓ 15lb off peak
Official rating80↓ 15lb off peak
80 80–95

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 89 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Hexham, 5 May 2018

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 114C · median 75.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good5114C80—
Soft2102C86—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m7114C71—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 14 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (3) · did not complete (3).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 14 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 99A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Hexham, 5 May 2018 Official rating 80 at the last run, 5 May 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 12 figures · best 104A · median 87
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good5100B94—
Heavy4104A87—
Soft387C85—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m8104A87.5—
2m1f – 2m4f399A87—
Over 3m1———

Of 18 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (6).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 18 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flying Legend (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 855 runs since Jan 2008 (69 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 4.3% from 161. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 3.5% from 142.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm10110%+2.7—
Good to Firm5758.8%+1.50 from 1
Good260155.8%−1.51 from 5
Good to Soft120119.2%+1.90 from 2
Soft244239.4%+2.10 from 5
Heavy16174.3%−30 from 5
Standard (AW)300%−7.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m14253.5%−3.8—
2m1f – 2m4f316268.2%+0.90 from 4
2m5f – 3m315257.9%+0.61 from 12
Over 3m8267.3%00 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Kadastrofs Prize (IRE) (Kadastrof)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Bully's Star Prize (IRE)10——
Kath Alec Girl (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 5 1 20% +5.00
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Downpatrick 4 1 25% +6.00
Wetherby 3 0 0% −3.00
Hexham 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 2 0 0% −2.00
Punchestown 2 0 0% −2.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 12 1 8% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr Donal Delahunt 14 1 7% −4.00
Donal McInerney 2 0 0% −2.00
Conor O'Farrell 1 0 0% −1.00
Thomas Dowson 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 1 14% +3.00
Cheekpieces 6 0 0% −6.00
Hood 2 0 0% −2.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00
Tongue tie + blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 5 0 0% −5.00
2017 8 1 13% +2.00
2016 3 0 0% −3.00
2015 1 0 0% −1.00
2014 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 17 1 6% −7.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2018 · 5 runs
05 May 18+37d Hexham Kentucky Derby Live Tonight On ATR Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m4f · Good · 16 ran 5/16 2 10-6 8089B99A Conor O'Farrell 9/1
29 Mar 18+14d Wetherby Racing Again On Friday 6th April Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m · Soft · 10 ran 7/10 nk 10-3 80102C74C Thomas Dowson 10/1
15 Mar 18+50d Hexham Download The App At 188bet Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m4f · Heavy · 7 ran 5/7 nk 10-7 82—86B Mr Donal Delahunt 9/2
24 Jan 18+12d Catterick Racing UK Profits Returned To Racing Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m1f · Heavy · 12 ran 7/12 3¾ 10-10 90—71C Mr Donal Delahunt 20/1
12 Jan 18+17d Sedgefield Windpower Energy Resources Handicap Chase Class 4 · 3m2½f · Soft · 7 ran UR/7 — 10-2 90—— Mr Donal Delahunt 10/1
2017 · 8 runs
26 Dec 17+38d Wetherby Leopardstown Betting At 188bet Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 3m · Soft · 9 ran 3/9 10 10-7 9170B85C Mr Donal Delahunt 9/2
18 Nov 17+57d Wetherby Brian's 60th Celebration Handicap Chase (Qualifier) Class 4 · 3m · Good To Soft · 16 ran UR/16 — 10-8 93—— Mr Donal Delahunt 10/1
22 Sep 17+62d Downpatrick Molson Coors Handicap Chase (0-95) 2m7½f · Soft To Heavy · 10 ran 2/10 17 11-3 90—104A Mr Donal Delahunt 16/1
22 Jul 17+64d Limerick Racing Again July 27th Handicap Chase (0-102) 3m · Good · 16 ran 9/16 2¼ 10-12 9546C87C Mr Donal Delahunt 10/1
19 May 17+14d Downpatrick Very Special Hunters Chase 2m6f · Good · 11 ran 2/11 5½ 11-7 8671B94C Mr Donal Delahunt 8/1
05 May 17+7d Downpatrick Bmg Insurance Maiden Hunters Chase 2m7½f · Good · 6 ran 1/6 11-7 8680B100B Mr Donal Delahunt 9/1
28 Apr 17+33d Punchestown Kfm Hunters Chase 2m4f · Good To Yielding · 12 ran F/12 — 11-4 ——— Mr Donal Delahunt 16/1
26 Mar 17+89d Downpatrick Boardsmill Sires Maiden Hunters Chase 2m6f · Good · 11 ran 6/11 17 11-7 —114C85C Mr Donal Delahunt 16/1
2016 · 3 runs
27 Dec 16+242d Limerick Earl Of Harrington Memorial Maiden Hunters Chase 2m6½f · Heavy · 16 ran 6/16 4½ 11-7 —31C88C Mr Donal Delahunt 16/1
29 Apr 16+4d Punchestown KFM Hunters Chase 2m4f · Yielding · 11 ran 4/11 17 11-4 ——87C Mr Donal Delahunt 12/1
25 Apr 16+466d Tramore Tote Rewards Hunters Chase 2m5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran UR/10 — 11-0 ——— Mr Donal Delahunt 12/1
2015 · 1 run
15 Jan 15+20d Thurles Arctic Tack Stud Hunters Chase 3m · Heavy · 13 ran UR/13 — 11-0 ——— Donal McInerney 66/1
2014 · 1 run
26 Dec 14 Down Royal Silks At downroyal Hunters Chase 2m6f · Soft · 16 ran PU/16 — 11-0 ——— Donal McInerney 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Cant Pay Wont Pay won?
Cant Pay Wont Pay (IRE) won 1 of 18 archived starts between 2014 and 2018, a strike rate of 5.6%. Placed 4 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trained Cant Pay Wont Pay?
Cant Pay Wont Pay (IRE) was trained by Rose Dobbin on the most recent run on record, at Hexham on 5 May 2018.
Who is Cant Pay Wont Pay's sire?
Cant Pay Wont Pay (IRE) is by Flying Legend (USA) out of Kadastrofs Prize (IRE), whose sire is Kadastrof.
What going does Cant Pay Wont Pay prefer?
Cant Pay Wont Pay (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Cant Pay Wont Pay's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 80, from the run on 5 May 2018. The highest on record is 95.
What is Cant Pay Wont Pay's sire's record?
Flying Legend (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 855 runs since Jan 2008 (69 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 4.3% from 161. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 3.5% from 142.
Who are Cant Pay Wont Pay's siblings?
Out of Kadastrofs Prize (IRE), Cant Pay Wont Pay (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from December 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.