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Horse profile

Carneades (IRE)

3yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2013) · Last trainer Ed Walker · Last owner Saeed Manana
by Exceed and Excel (AUS) out of Ivy League Star (IRE) (Sadler's Wells)
6 runs · 3 courses · from Dec 2012
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Jul 2013 — 4,866 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2013 · 8th of 12 Last raced off OR 45
KTB Profile

Carneades (IRE) is yet to win from 6 starts. Best effort: 4th of 7 at Nottingham (May 2013). Last raced off 45, 39lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 49A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Lingfield (AW), 4 Jun 2013 Official rating 45 at the last run, 1 Jul 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 49A · median 44.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)549A45—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
6f – 7f549A45—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Exceed and Excel (AUS)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 16,030 runs since Jan 2008 (1,161 horses).

Strongest on firm going: 20.7% from 198. Weakest on soft going: 7.9% from 1,194.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1984120.7%+8.8—
Good to Firm3,25139912.3%+0.4—
Good3,14632810.4%−1.50 from 1
Good to Soft1,3101309.9%−2—
Soft1,194947.9%−4—
Heavy273259.2%−2.7—
Standard (AW)6,65888313.3%+1.40 from 5
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3,86052113.5%+1.6—
6f – 7f8,00695111.9%00 from 5
1m – 1m1f2,75528910.5%−1.40 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f1,02510210%−1.9—
1m5f – 2m273269.5%−2.4—
2m1f – 2m4f102109.8%−2.1—
2m5f – 3m9111.1%−0.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ivy League Star (IRE) (Sadler's Wells)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Hard Road (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m1½f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Beakers N Num Nums (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Hard Road (GB)921m1½fClass 6
Beakers N Num Nums (IRE)1011m2fClass 5

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Luke Morris 5 0 0% −5.00
Tom McLaughlin 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 5 0 0% −5.00
2012 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2013 · 5 runs
01 Jul 13+11d Wolverhampton (AW) Talk To Victor Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 12 ran 8/12 ½ 8-2 4544A Luke Morris 22/1
20 Jun 13+16d Lingfield (AW) Vines Bmw Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 6/12 3½ 8-8 4743A Luke Morris 16/1
04 Jun 13+24d Lingfield (AW) William Pears Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 14 ran 9/14 nk 9-1 4949A Luke Morris 25/1
11 May 13+19d Nottingham Odds On Favourite DG Taxis 01159 500500 Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Good · 7 ran 4/7 13 9-5 8443A Luke Morris 50/1
22 Apr 13+129d Wolverhampton (AW) 32red.com Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 8 ran 7/8 2¾ 9-3 —45A Tom McLaughlin 33/1
2012 · 1 run
14 Dec 12 Lingfield (AW) British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E.B.F. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 10/10 ¾ 9-3 —46C Luke Morris 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Carneades won?
Carneades (IRE) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2012 and 2013.
Who trained Carneades?
Carneades (IRE) was trained by Ed Walker on the most recent run on record, at Wolverhampton (AW) on 1 July 2013.
Who is Carneades's sire?
Carneades (IRE) is by Exceed and Excel (AUS) out of Ivy League Star (IRE), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
What is Carneades's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 45, from the run on 1 July 2013. The highest on record is 84.
What is Carneades's sire's record?
Exceed and Excel (AUS)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 16,030 runs since Jan 2008 (1,161 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 20.7% from 198. Weakest on soft going: 7.9% from 1,194.
Who are Carneades's siblings?
Out of Ivy League Star (IRE), Carneades (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Hard Road (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Beakers N Num Nums (IRE)). The wins came over 1m1½f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.