Commander Cave (USA)
Commander Cave (USA) is 4 from 12. Hasn't won since Nov 2008. Last raced off a career-high mark of 103.
- 4–12Wins / Runs
- 33.3%Strike rate
- 7 (58.3%)Placed
- +14.00£1 level staken=12 at SP
- 3.15Fair A/E n=12 · 2.55 incl. margin
- 103Highest OR
- 38dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 774 runs since Jan 2008 (55 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 5 | 1 | 20% | +9.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 153 | 14 | 9.2% | −1.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 158 | 19 | 12% | +1.5 | — |
| Good to Soft | 65 | 7 | 10.8% | +0.3 | 1 from 1 |
| Soft | 87 | 11 | 12.6% | +2.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 47 | 3 | 6.4% | −4.1 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 259 | 26 | 10% | −0.5 | 3 from 8 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 55 | 10 | 18.2% | +7.7 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 334 | 35 | 10.5% | 0 | 1 from 5 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 196 | 23 | 11.7% | +1.2 | 3 from 7 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 94 | 8 | 8.5% | −2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 62 | 3 | 4.8% | −5.7 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 23 | 2 | 8.7% | −1.8 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 9 | 0 | 0% | −10.5 | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −10.5 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 20 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
7 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Shy Glance (USA) (6 wins).
The wins came over 5f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Jillnextdoor (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shy Glance (USA) | 54 | 6 | 7f–1m2f | Class 5 |
| Van Rooney (USA) | 8 | 2 | 1m½f | — |
| Jillnextdoor (IRE) | 32 | 1 | 5f | Class 4 |
| Kaiulani (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 5f | Class 5 |
| Dijon (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Question (USA) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Mufasa Rules (USA) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 8 | 3 | 38% | +8.50 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.50 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 2 | 6 | 2 | 33% | +7.00 |
| Class 5 | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.50 |
| Class 1 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +7.50 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lingfield (AW) | 4 | 1 | 25% | +0.50 |
| Kempton (AW) | 3 | 2 | 67% | +9.00 |
| Chelmsford (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Goodwood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ascot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Haydock | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sandown | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.50 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 7 | 3 | 43% | +14.50 |
| 6f – 7f | 5 | 1 | 20% | −0.50 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richard Hughes | 4 | 2 | 50% | +14.00 |
| Ryan Moore | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.50 |
| Eddie Ahern | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Pat Dobbs | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jamie Spencer | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.50 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 10 | 4 | 40% | +16.00 |
| 2007 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 29 Nov 08+15d | Kempton (AW) | Betdaq.co.uk Hyde Stakes (Listed) | 2/14 | hd | 9-0 | 103 | 104A | Eddie Ahern | 11/2 |
| 14 Nov 08+15d | Kempton (AW) | Betdaq.co.uk Handicap | 1/10 | 9-5 | 95 | 98A | Ryan Moore | 5/2 | |
| 30 Oct 08+33d | Lingfield (AW) | Play Casino At ladbrokes.com Handicap | 2/8 | ½ | 9-6 | 94 | 88A | Ryan Moore | 9/2 |
| 27 Sep 08+34d | Chelmsford (AW) | New Holland Providence Handicap | 7/10 | shd | 9-4 | 96 | 84A | Ryan Moore | 15/2 |
| 24 Aug 08+66d | Goodwood | TurfTV.co.uk Handicap | 10/11 | ½ | 9-2 | 98 | 67A | Richard Hughes | 5/1 |
| 19 Jun 08+26d | Ascot | Britannia Stakes Heritage Handicap (Str) | 16/28 | nk | 9-1 | 98 | 75A | Richard Hughes | 12/1 |
| 24 May 08+29d | Haydock | Betfred Silver Bowl Heritage Handicap | 2/13 | hd | 9-1 | 93 | 98A | Eddie Ahern | 12/1 |
| 25 Apr 08+20d | Sandown | bet365.com Esher Cup Handicap | 1/9 | 8-8 | 88 | 86A | Richard Hughes | 17/2 | |
| 05 Apr 08+31d | Kempton (AW) | Panoramic Bar & Restaurant Loyalty Scheme Handicap | 1/9 | 9-7 | 80 | 98A | Richard Hughes | 15/2 | |
| 05 Mar 08+133d | Lingfield (AW) | Spring To It At Pontin's Maiden Stakes | 1/11 | 9-3 | 80 | 85A | Jamie Spencer | 7/2 | |
| 24 Oct 07+12d | Lingfield (AW) | Racing Ahead Weekend At All Newsagents Maiden Stakes | 9/14 | ½ | 9-0 | — | 65C | Pat Dobbs | 66/1 |
| 12 Oct 07 | Lingfield (AW) | Norman Hill Memorial Maiden Stakes (Div 2) | 5/9 | shd | 9-3 | — | 63C | Pat Dobbs | 20/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Commander Cave (USA) won?
- Commander Cave (USA) won 4 of 12 archived starts between 2007 and 2008, a strike rate of 33.3%. Placed 7 times in total (58.3% of starts).
- Who trained Commander Cave (USA)?
- Commander Cave (USA) was trained by Richard Hannon Snr on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 29 November 2008.
- Who is Commander Cave (USA)'s sire?
- Commander Cave (USA) is by Tale Of The Cat (USA) out of Royal Shyness (GB), whose sire is Royal Academy.
- What going does Commander Cave (USA) prefer?
- Commander Cave (USA) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 3 wins from 8 starts (37.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Commander Cave (USA)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 103, from the run on 29 November 2008. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Commander Cave (USA)'s sire's record?
- Tale Of The Cat (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 774 runs since Jan 2008 (55 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Commander Cave (USA)'s siblings?
- Out of Royal Shyness (GB), Commander Cave (USA) has 7 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Shy Glance (USA) (6). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Jillnextdoor (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.