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Horse profile

Dance With Wolves (FR)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2008) · Last trainer Jim Best · Last owner Muerren Racing
by Tel Quel (FR) out of La Florian (FR) (River Mist)
13 runs · 6 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Jan 2008 — 6,877 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2008 · 10th of 11 3 wins · Plumpton Last raced off OR 99
KTB Profile

Dance With Wolves (FR) is 3 from 13. Hasn't won since Jan 2007. All 3 wins have come over 1m5f – 2m.

Based on 13 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
Official rating99↓ 5lb off peak
99 89–104

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 82C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Plumpton, 6 Jan 2008 Official rating 99 at the last run, 6 Jan 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 11 figures · best 111C · median 82
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft5102C82—
Good to Soft4108C90—
Heavy1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m8111C80.5—
2m1f – 2m4f3108C102—

Of 13 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 13 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Tel Quel (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 4.7% of 342 runs since Jan 2008 (41 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm600%−4.7—
Good to Firm2528%+3.30 from 1
Good10854.6%−0.1—
Good to Soft3925.1%+0.41 from 4
Soft9155.5%+0.81 from 6
Heavy6111.6%−3.11 from 2
Standard (AW)1218.3%+3.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−4.7—
1m2f – 1m4f400%−4.7—
1m5f – 2m9055.6%+0.93 from 8
2m1f – 2m4f14585.5%+0.80 from 5
2m5f – 3m8933.4%−1.3—
Over 3m1200%−4.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
La Florian (FR) (River Mist)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Footsteps (FR)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 6 1 17% −3.75
Good to Soft 4 1 25% +2.00
Heavy 2 1 50% +1.50
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 9 2 22% −3.25
Class 5 3 1 33% +3.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Plumpton 7 3 43% +4.75
Folkestone 2 0 0% −2.00
Fontwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 8 3 38% +3.75
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Robert L Butler 10 3 30% +1.75
Paddy Merrigan 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Tinkler 1 0 0% −1.00
Mick Fitzgerald 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 6 1 17% +0.00
Blinkers 6 2 33% −0.25
None 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 1 0 0% −1.00
2007 5 1 20% −2.75
2006 5 2 40% +4.50
2005 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 1 run
06 Jan 08+42d Plumpton skypoker.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 11 ran 10/11 30 10-12 9982C Robert L Butler 7/1
2007 · 5 runs
25 Nov 07+280d Plumpton totesportgames.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good To Soft · 10 ran 9/10 10 11-0 10173C Robert L Butler 6/1
18 Feb 07+6d Fontwell totesport Supports Racehorse Sanctuary Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1½f · Soft · 9 ran 8/9 26 10-13 10480C Robert L Butler 14/1
12 Feb 07+36d Plumpton Cloudesley Marsham Birthday Handicap Hdl Class 3 · 2m4½f · Heavy · 8 ran PU/8 — 10-7 104— Robert L Butler 6/1
07 Jan 07+5d Plumpton Play Monopoly At skybetvegas.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 6 ran 1/6 10-11 9997C Robert L Butler 5/4F
02 Jan 07+22d Folkestone Happy New Year Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1½f · Soft · 9 ran 4/9 hd 11-1 99102C Robert L Butler 9/2
2006 · 5 runs
11 Dec 06+11d Plumpton Learn Poker At coralpoker.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Heavy · 12 ran 1/12 10-8 89111C Robert L Butler 5/2F
30 Nov 06+200d Leicester Waltham On The Wolds Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 6 ran 3/6 3½ 10-12 9179C Robert L Butler 7/1
14 May 06+28d Plumpton Shelleys Hotel Claiming Hurdle Class 5 · 2m · Good To Firm · 12 ran 5/12 17 11-7 9179C Robert L Butler 7/1
16 Apr 06+11d Plumpton Totecourse To Course Classified Hurdle Class 5 · 2m · Good To Soft · 11 ran 1/11 10-9 96107C Robert L Butler 5/1
05 Apr 06+418d Exeter Happy Birthday Robert Thomas Conditionals' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m1f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 6/15 shd 11-2 90108C Paddy Merrigan 12/1
2005 · 2 runs
11 Feb 05+39d Bangor-on-Dee Handicap Class 4 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 8/9 5 11-1 9970C Andrew Tinkler 10/1
03 Jan 05 Folkestone Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1½f · Soft · 8 ran PU/8 — 11-12 99— Mick Fitzgerald 4/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dance With Wolves won?
Dance With Wolves (FR) won 3 of 13 archived starts between 2005 and 2008, a strike rate of 23.1%. Placed 3 times in total (23.1% of starts).
Who trained Dance With Wolves?
Dance With Wolves (FR) was trained by Jim Best on the most recent run on record, at Plumpton on 6 January 2008.
Who is Dance With Wolves's sire?
Dance With Wolves (FR) is by Tel Quel (FR) out of La Florian (FR), whose sire is River Mist.
What going does Dance With Wolves prefer?
Dance With Wolves (FR) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Dance With Wolves's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 99, from the run on 6 January 2008. The highest on record is 104.
What is Dance With Wolves's sire's record?
Tel Quel (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 4.7% of 342 runs since Jan 2008 (41 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Dance With Wolves's siblings?
Out of La Florian (FR), Dance With Wolves (FR) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.