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Horse profile

Demesne (GB)

8yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2008) · Last trainer P Hogan · Last owner P Hogan
by Thowra (FR) out of Alice's Mirror (GB) (Magic Mirror I)
23 runs · 12 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Nov 2008 — 6,572 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2008 Won at Clonmel
KTB Profile

Demesne (GB) is 1 from 23. Hasn't won since Feb 2005.

Based on 23 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 20lb off peak
Official rating93↓ 20lb off peak
93 93–113

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 102C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Listowel, 4 Jun 2007 Official rating 93 at the last run, 4 Jun 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 20 figures · best 125C · median 95.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Heavy9125C97—
Soft5102C92—
Good3102C94—
Good to Firm2102C102—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m9125C97—
2m1f – 2m4f7111C92—
2m5f – 3m4102C98—

Of 23 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 20 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Thowra (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 3.2% of 252 runs since Jan 2008 (37 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm300%−3.2—
Good to Firm4324.7%+1.50 from 2
Good8244.9%+1.70 from 3
Good to Soft5123.9%+0.70 from 2
Soft3700%−3.20 from 7
Heavy2400%−3.21 from 9
Standard (AW)1200%−3.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f1100%−3.2—
1m5f – 2m7256.9%+3.71 from 11
2m1f – 2m4f6822.9%−0.30 from 8
2m5f – 3m8211.2%−20 from 4
Over 3m1900%−3.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Alice's Mirror (GB) (Magic Mirror I)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Magical Legend (GB) (7 wins).

The wins came over 2m½f–3m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Magical Legend (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Magical Legend (GB)4972m½f–3m1½fClass 3
Magical Wonderland (GB)522m5½f–2m6fClass 4
Magical Treasure (GB)200——
Magical Island (GB)170——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 9 1 11% +1.00
Soft 7 0 0% −7.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Punchestown 4 0 0% −4.00
Clonmel 3 1 33% +7.00
Navan 3 0 0% −3.00
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Gowran Park 2 0 0% −2.00
Cork 2 0 0% −2.00
Naas 2 0 0% −2.00
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00
Tralee (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 11 1 9% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 8 0 0% −8.00
2m5f – 3m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
D G Hogan 8 0 0% −8.00
John Cullen 6 1 17% +4.00
Kevin Coleman 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr Steven E Ryder 3 0 0% −3.00
Lenny Flynn 1 0 0% −1.00
Niki O'Shea 1 0 0% −1.00
Tommy Treacy 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 19 1 5% −9.00
Cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00
Visor + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 3 0 0% −3.00
2007 5 0 0% −5.00
2006 8 0 0% −8.00
2005 7 1 14% +3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 20 1 5% −10.00
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 3 runs
06 Nov 08+21d Thurles Killinan Beginners Chase 2m · Soft · 16 ran UR/16 — 11-12 —— Kevin Coleman 33/1
16 Oct 08+13d Punchestown Go Racing In Kildare Beginners Chase 2m4f · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran 12/18 14 11-12 —97C Kevin Coleman 33/1
03 Oct 08+487d Gowran Park Stoneyford Beginners Chase 2m4f · Good To Yielding · 18 ran UR/18 — 11-12 —— Kevin Coleman 33/1
2007 · 5 runs
04 Jun 07+9d Listowel John J.Galvin Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 3m · Good · 17 ran 3/17 ¾ 9-9 93102C D G Hogan 20/1
26 May 07+34d Tralee (IRE) Ballybeggan Handicap Hurdle 2m6f · Good · 20 ran 5/20 1½ 10-0 9394C D G Hogan 12/1
22 Apr 07+17d Cork Newmarket Handicap Hurdle (74-109) 3m · Good To Firm · 23 ran 4/23 ½ 10-13 93102C D G Hogan 25/1
05 Apr 07+72d Clonmel Ballypatrick Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 2m4f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 8/18 nk 10-7 95102C Lenny Flynn 20/1
23 Jan 07+37d Thurles D & S Tarmac Handicap Hurdle (74-116) 2m · Soft · 18 ran 6/18 7 10-8 9692C Mr Steven E Ryder 25/1
2006 · 8 runs
17 Dec 06+31d Navan Roast Turkey Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 2m6f · Heavy · 16 ran 8/16 30 11-6 9789C Mr Steven E Ryder 14/1
16 Nov 06+18d Clonmel Sporting Press Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 2m · Heavy · 17 ran 5/17 1¼ 11-1 98117C John Cullen 9/1
29 Oct 06+10d Wexford Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 2m4f · Heavy · 16 ran 3/16 7 10-13 98111C Mr Steven E Ryder 20/1
19 Oct 06+172d Punchestown Star Racegoers Club Handicap Hurdle (74-109) 2m4f · Soft · 25 ran 10/25 4 10-13 10086C D G Hogan 25/1
30 Apr 06+15d Gowran Park (IRE) Goresbridge Handicap Hurdle 2m4f · Good · 17 ran 11/17 8 10-12 10286C D G Hogan 10/1
15 Apr 06+28d Cork Dermot Casey Plant Hire Handicap Hurdle (74-116) 2m · Good To Yielding · 22 ran 9/22 1½ 10-8 10397C Niki O'Shea 20/1
18 Mar 06+69d Gowran Park Garryrichard Stud Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 2m · Yielding · 19 ran BD/19 — 10-4 104— D G Hogan 16/1
08 Jan 06+36d Naas Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (74-109) 2m · Soft · 24 ran 9/24 shd 11-7 106102C D G Hogan 20/1
2005 · 7 runs
03 Dec 05+21d Fairyhouse Ladbrokes.ie Handicap Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 19 ran 11/19 1 9-3 11390C D G Hogan 50/1
12 Nov 05+196d Naas Racing At Naas On January 8th Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 2m · Heavy · 19 ran 11/19 2 11-7 10890C John Cullen 12/1
30 Apr 05+4d Punchestown RFL Steel Hurdle 2m4f · Soft · 25 ran 12/25 1 11-11 10892C John Cullen 20/1
26 Apr 05+24d Punchestown Tote Ireland 75th Anniversary Handicap Hurdle (Listed) 2m4f · Soft · 25 ran 23/25 ½ 9-13 11089C Tommy Treacy 16/1
02 Apr 05+58d Navan Hill Of Tara Novice Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 18 ran 2/18 1½ 11-12 104125C John Cullen 9/2
03 Feb 05+15d Clonmel Fethard Maiden Hurdle 2m · Soft To Heavy · 20 ran 1/20 11-1 —122C John Cullen 9/1
19 Jan 05 Navan Skryne Maiden Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 29 ran 7/29 nk 11-0 —89C John Cullen 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Demesne won?
Demesne (GB) won 1 of 23 archived starts between 2005 and 2008, a strike rate of 4.3%. Placed 5 times in total (21.7% of starts).
Who trained Demesne?
Demesne (GB) was trained by P Hogan on the most recent run on record, at Thurles on 6 November 2008.
Who is Demesne's sire?
Demesne (GB) is by Thowra (FR) out of Alice's Mirror (GB), whose sire is Magic Mirror I.
What going does Demesne prefer?
Demesne (GB) has the best record on heavy going: 1 win from 9 starts (11.1%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Demesne's official rating?
Demesne (GB)'s highest official rating on record is 113.
What is Demesne's sire's record?
Thowra (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 3.2% of 252 runs since Jan 2008 (37 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Demesne's siblings?
Out of Alice's Mirror (GB), Demesne (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Magical Legend (GB) (7). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Magical Legend (GB)). The wins came over 2m½f–3m1½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.