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Horse profile

Desperate Times (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, May 2012) · Last trainer Bernard Llewellyn · Last owner B J Llewellyn
by Bishop of Cashel (GB) out of Midnight Lover (GB) (Beveled)
4 runs · 2 courses · from Nov 2011
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 May 2012 — 5,278 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2012 · 6th of 7
KTB Profile

Desperate Times (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 82C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Ffos Las, 9 May 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 82C · median 79.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f282C79.5—

Of 4 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bishop of Cashel (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 701 runs since Jan 2008 (69 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 3.8% from 105.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−7.7—
Good to Firm9799.3%+1.60 from 1
Good196157.7%00 from 1
Good to Soft10543.8%−3.90 from 1
Soft167106%−1.70 from 1
Heavy951313.7%+6—
Standard (AW)3638.3%+0.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f200%−7.7—
6f – 7f800%−7.7—
1m – 1m1f48612.5%+4.8—
1m2f – 1m4f5758.8%+1.1—
1m5f – 2m218115%−2.7—
2m1f – 2m4f2412410%+2.30 from 2
2m5f – 3m10687.5%−0.20 from 2
Over 3m2100%−7.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Midnight Lover (GB) (Beveled)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Prescelli (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m5½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Prescelli (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Prescelli (IRE)2042m–2m5½fClass 4
Whispering Speed (IRE)90——
Murray Bridge (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ffos Las 3 0 0% −3.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Robert Williams 2 0 0% −2.00
Aodhagan Conlon 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Bellamy 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 3 0 0% −3.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 3 0 0% −3.00
2011 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2012 · 3 runs
15 May 12+6d Hereford Richards Events Security And Cleaning Services Conditional Jockeys' Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 19.5f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 6/7 99 11-0 77C Aodhagan Conlon 12/1
09 May 12+24d Ffos Las Adam Jones Testimonial Raceday Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 20f · Soft · 9 ran 8/9 46 10-7 82C Robert Williams 28/1
15 Apr 12+161d Ffos Las Trustmark Design And Print Conditional Jockeys' Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 24f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 10-10 — Tom Bellamy 40/1
2011 · 1 run
06 Nov 11 Ffos Las Blue Square Staying Novices' Hurdle (Series Qualifier) Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-5 — Robert Williams 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Desperate Times won?
Desperate Times (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts between 2011 and 2012.
Who trained Desperate Times?
Desperate Times (IRE) was trained by Bernard Llewellyn on the most recent run on record, at Hereford on 15 May 2012.
Who is Desperate Times's sire?
Desperate Times (IRE) is by Bishop of Cashel (GB) out of Midnight Lover (GB), whose sire is Beveled.
What is Desperate Times's sire's record?
Bishop of Cashel (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 701 runs since Jan 2008 (69 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 3.8% from 105.
Who are Desperate Times's siblings?
Out of Midnight Lover (GB), Desperate Times (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Prescelli (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Prescelli (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m5½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.