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Horse profile

Determind Stand (USA)

2yo colt (at last run, Oct 2007) · Last trainer Sir Michael Stoute · Last owner Saeed Suhail
by Elusive Quality (USA) out of Sauterne (GB) (Rainbow Quest)
7 runs · 6 courses · from Jun 2007
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Oct 2007 — 6,941 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2007 · 2nd of 16 Won at Lingfield (AW) Last raced off OR 76
KTB Profile

Determind Stand (USA) is 1 from 7, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Aug 2007. The win came on the all-weather — 0 from 5 on turf. Last raced off a career-high mark of 76.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Won on AW, 0 on turf Win at Class 5

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 82C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Doncaster, 26 Oct 2007 Official rating 76 at the last run, 26 Oct 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 7 figures · best 85C · median 81
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good282C65—
Good to Firm283C82—
Standard (AW)285C79—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
6f – 7f585C73—
1m – 1m1f282C81.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Elusive Quality (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 3,387 runs since Jan 2008 (333 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 7.9% from 280. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16% from 319.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm25312%−0.3—
Good to Firm5916911.7%−0.60 from 2
Good7209012.5%+0.20 from 2
Good to Soft280227.9%−4.40 from 1
Soft3773810.1%−2.2—
Heavy9177.7%−4.6—
Standard (AW)1,30318814.4%+2.11 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3195116%+3.7—
6f – 7f1,33316212.2%−0.11 from 5
1m – 1m1f94212112.8%+0.50 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f5405810.7%−1.6—
1m5f – 2m1491912.8%+0.5—
2m1f – 2m4f7534%−8.3—
2m5f – 3m29310.3%−2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Sauterne (GB) (Rainbow Quest)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Senate (GB) (3 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Senate (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Senate (GB)831m2f–1m4fClass 2
Peacemaker (IRE)1317fClass 5
Sweet Vintage (IRE)1617fClass 6
Daa'iman (GB)30——
Muscadelle (GB)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Standard (AW) 2 1 50% +4.50
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 4 1 25% +2.50
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Doncaster 2 0 0% −2.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 1 100% +5.50
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Yarmouth 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 5 1 20% +1.50
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ryan Moore 5 0 0% −5.00
Ted Durcan 1 1 100% +5.50
Kerrin McEvoy 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 1 17% +0.50
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2007 · 7 runs
26 Oct 07+43d Doncaster Racing Post Nursery Handicap Class 3 · 8f · Good · 16 ran 2/16 1½ 8-7 7682C Ryan Moore 7/1
13 Sep 07+14d Doncaster Fountain Spa Nursery Handicap (Str) Class 2 · 8f · Good To Firm · 19 ran 6/19 shd 8-11 7681C Ryan Moore 14/1
30 Aug 07+15d Lingfield (AW) Pushkablue Nursery Handicap (AW) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 14 ran 1/14 8-7 7273C Ted Durcan 11/2
15 Aug 07+29d Salisbury Irish Thoroughbred Marketing Nursery Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 6/13 1¼ 8-13 7570C Ryan Moore 11/2F
17 Jul 07+20d Yarmouth E.B.F. Toteplacepot Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 17 ran 5/17 1 9-3 —83C Ryan Moore 9/2
27 Jun 07+18d Kempton (AW) Austin Allison Birthday Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 7f · Standard · 13 ran 3/13 1¼ 9-3 —85C Ryan Moore 7/2F
09 Jun 07 Windsor E.B.F. Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 6f · Good · 11 ran 8/11 1 9-3 —48C Kerrin McEvoy 5/1

Quick answers

How many races has Determind Stand won?
Determind Stand (USA) won 1 of 7 archived starts in 2007, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 3 times in total (42.9% of starts).
Who trained Determind Stand?
Determind Stand (USA) was trained by Sir Michael Stoute on the most recent run on record, at Doncaster on 26 October 2007.
Who is Determind Stand's sire?
Determind Stand (USA) is by Elusive Quality (USA) out of Sauterne (GB), whose sire is Rainbow Quest.
What is Determind Stand's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 76, from the run on 26 October 2007. That is also the highest on record.
What is Determind Stand's sire's record?
Elusive Quality (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 3,387 runs since Jan 2008 (333 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 7.9% from 280. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16% from 319.
Who are Determind Stand's siblings?
Out of Sauterne (GB), Determind Stand (USA) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Senate (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Senate (GB)). The wins came over 7f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.