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Discussiontofollow (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2015) · Last trainer Mike Murphy · Last owner David Spratt
by Elusive City (USA) out of Tranquil Sky (GB) (Intikhab)
14 runs · 10 courses · from Aug 2013
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Aug 2015 — 4,113 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2015 · 19th of 27 4 wins · Ascot, Kempton (AW) & Wolverhampton (AW) Last raced off OR 100
KTB Profile

Discussiontofollow (IRE) is 4 from 14. Hasn't won since Jul 2014. Last raced off a career-high mark of 100.

Based on 14 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR at career high
Official rating100At career-high mark
100 68–100

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 112A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Curragh (IRE), 28 Jun 2015 Official rating 100 at the last run, 1 Aug 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 14 figures · best 112A · median 98.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Firm8108A100—
Good3112A101—
Standard (AW)397A96—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
6f – 7f11103A96—
Under 6f3112A108—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 14 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Elusive City (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 8,427 runs since Apr 2008 (636 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 6.4% from 1,123.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm461328.3%+18.6—
Good to Firm90510111.2%+1.51 from 8
Good1,4631278.7%−10 from 3
Good to Soft898728%−1.7—
Soft1,123726.4%−3.3—
Heavy329237%−2.7—
Standard (AW)3,66341311.3%+1.63 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f99810410.4%+0.71 from 3
6f – 7f4,12243810.6%+0.93 from 11
1m – 1m1f2,2742049%−0.7—
1m2f – 1m4f691527.5%−2.2—
1m5f – 2m210157.1%−2.6—
2m1f – 2m4f9766.2%−3.5—
2m5f – 3m3326.1%−3.6—
Over 3m200%−9.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Tranquil Sky (GB) (Intikhab)

5 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Wolowitz (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Wolowitz (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Wolowitz (IRE)745fClass 2
Breezyandbright (IRE)2735½f–7fClass 6
Kripke (IRE)1521mClass 4
Diamond Vision (IRE)611m2fClass 6
Kate Kelly (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 8 1 13% +3.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Standard (AW) 3 3 100% +7.25

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 5 1 20% +6.00
Class 5 4 2 50% +1.75
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 1 100% +3.50

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Goodwood 2 0 0% −2.00
Ascot 2 1 50% +9.00
Curragh 2 0 0% −2.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 2 100% +3.75
Curragh (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 1 100% +3.50
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 11 3 27% −0.75
Under 6f 3 1 33% +8.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Shane Kelly 12 4 33% +9.25
Paul Mulrennan 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2015 4 0 0% −4.00
2014 6 2 33% +9.50
2013 4 2 50% +1.75

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2015 · 4 runs
01 Aug 15+21d Goodwood Qatar Stewards' Cup (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 6f · Good To Firm · 27 ran 19/27 shd 9-0 10079A Shane Kelly 14/1
11 Jul 15+13d Ascot totescoop6 Heritage Handicap Class 2 · 5f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 5/18 nse 9-4 100100A Shane Kelly 6/1F
28 Jun 15+29d Curragh (IRE) Tote Rockingham Handicap (Premier Handicap) 5f · Good · 21 ran 2/21 2¼ 9-4 97112A Shane Kelly 6/1F
30 May 15+258d Newmarket Winner.co.uk Casino Handicap Class 2 · 6f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 6/13 3½ 9-8 9784A Shane Kelly 5/1
2014 · 6 runs
14 Sep 14+43d Curragh Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 'Bold Lad' Sprint Handicap (Premier Handicap) 6f · Good To Firm · 20 ran 5/20 hd 9-6 98100A Shane Kelly 11/2
02 Aug 14+21d Goodwood 32Red Cup (Stewards' Cup) (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 6f · Good To Firm · 24 ran 6/24 ½ 9-0 92103A Shane Kelly 10/1
12 Jul 14+14d Ascot Totepool Heritage Handicap Class 2 · 5f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 1/18 8-10 92108A Shane Kelly 10/1
28 Jun 14+75d Curragh Paddy Power Scurry (Premier Handicap) 6½f · Good To Firm · 23 ran 3/23 nk 8-10 89102A Shane Kelly 8/1
14 Apr 14+81d Windsor Unibet - By Players For Players Handicap Class 3 · 6f · Good · 16 ran 3/16 ¾ 9-3 86101A Shane Kelly 9/2J
23 Jan 14+45d Kempton (AW) Cheltenham 2014 NRFB At BetVictor.com Handicap Class 4 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 1/10 8-12 7696A Shane Kelly 7/2
2013 · 4 runs
09 Dec 13+17d Wolverhampton (AW) Compare Bookmakers At Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 13 ran 1/13 9-0 6897A Shane Kelly 11/4F
22 Nov 13+86d Wolverhampton (AW) Best Odds At Bookmakers.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 6 ran 1/6 9-5 —89B Shane Kelly EvensF
28 Aug 13+18d Catterick Betfred Mobile Sports Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 nk 9-5 —89A Paul Mulrennan 10/3
10 Aug 13 Redcar Follow Redcarracing On Facebook & Twitter Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 3/8 4½ 9-3 —67A Paul Mulrennan 5/4F

Quick answers

How many races has Discussiontofollow won?
Discussiontofollow (IRE) won 4 of 14 archived starts between 2013 and 2015, a strike rate of 28.6%. Placed 9 times in total (64.3% of starts).
Who trained Discussiontofollow?
Discussiontofollow (IRE) was trained by Mike Murphy on the most recent run on record, at Goodwood on 1 August 2015.
Who is Discussiontofollow's sire?
Discussiontofollow (IRE) is by Elusive City (USA) out of Tranquil Sky (GB), whose sire is Intikhab.
What going does Discussiontofollow prefer?
Discussiontofollow (IRE) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 3 wins from 3 starts (100%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Discussiontofollow's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 1 August 2015. That is also the highest on record.
What is Discussiontofollow's sire's record?
Elusive City (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 8,427 runs since Apr 2008 (636 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 6.4% from 1,123.
Who are Discussiontofollow's siblings?
Out of Tranquil Sky (GB), Discussiontofollow (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Wolowitz (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Wolowitz (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m2f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from August 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.