Endless Debate (IRE)
Endless Debate (IRE) is yet to win from 6 starts.
- 0–6Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −6.00£1 level staken=6 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=6 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 56Highest OR
- 83dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 2,080 runs since Jan 2008 (132 horses).
Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4.5% from 157.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 49 | 4 | 8.2% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 404 | 36 | 8.9% | +0.6 | — |
| Good | 436 | 42 | 9.6% | +1.3 | — |
| Good to Soft | 207 | 18 | 8.7% | +0.4 | — |
| Soft | 260 | 17 | 6.5% | −1.8 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 111 | 7 | 6.3% | −2 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 613 | 48 | 7.8% | −0.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 411 | 37 | 9% | +0.7 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 702 | 71 | 10.1% | +1.8 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 426 | 32 | 7.5% | −0.8 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 228 | 17 | 7.5% | −0.8 | 0 from 3 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 157 | 7 | 4.5% | −3.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 130 | 8 | 6.2% | −2.1 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 24 | 0 | 0% | −8.3 | — |
| Over 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −8.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 20 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Wait Watcher (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 6f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Wait Watcher (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wait Watcher (IRE) | 7 | 1 | 6f | Class 5 |
| Campaign Trail (IRE) | 15 | 0 | — | — |
| Campesino (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Desert Move (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Champion Charlie (IRE) | 11 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dundalk (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Wexford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Curragh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leopardstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kieran O'Neill | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Chris Hayes | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr D J Benson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Shane Foley | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2009 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 08 Dec 10+19d | Dundalk (AW) | Crowne Plaza Race & Stay Package Handicap (47-75) | 11/13 | 2½ | 7-13 | 51 | 35C | Kieran O'Neill | 16/1 |
| 19 Nov 10+182d | Dundalk (AW) | Christmas Party Packages At Dundalk Apprentice Handicap (47-65) | 8/14 | nk | 8-4 | 53 | 43A | Mr D J Benson | 25/1 |
| 21 May 10+18d | Wexford | Black Point Handicap (47-75) | 8/9 | 5½ | 8-1 | 56 | 28A | Kieran O'Neill | 14/1 |
| 03 May 10+179d | Curragh | Keadeen Hotel Maiden | 20/30 | shd | 9-2 | 56 | 44A | Shane Foley | 50/1 |
| 05 Nov 09+15d | Leopardstown | Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. (C & G) Maiden | 7/16 | 3½ | 9-0 | 56 | 52A | Chris Hayes | 33/1 |
| 21 Oct 09 | Navan | Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Median Auction Maiden | 9/18 | 1¼ | 9-3 | — | 50C | Chris Hayes | 33/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Endless Debate (IRE) won?
- Endless Debate (IRE) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2009 and 2010.
- Who trained Endless Debate (IRE)?
- Endless Debate (IRE) was trained by A Oliver on the most recent run on record, at Dundalk (AW) on 8 December 2010.
- Who is Endless Debate (IRE)'s sire?
- Endless Debate (IRE) is by Titus Livius (FR) out of Campestral (USA), whose sire is Alleged.
- What is Endless Debate (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 51, from the run on 8 December 2010. The highest on record is 56.
- What is Endless Debate (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Titus Livius (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 2,080 runs since Jan 2008 (132 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4.5% from 157.
- Who are Endless Debate (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Campestral (USA), Endless Debate (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Wait Watcher (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Wait Watcher (IRE)). The wins came over 6f. As at Oct 2026.