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Horse profile

Endofdiscusion (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2013) · Last trainer Paul Webber · Last owner D Allen
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Fake Tan (IRE) (Eagle Eyed)
10 runs · 6 courses · from Dec 2011
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Dec 2013 — 4,688 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2013 · 7th of 8 Last raced off OR 100
KTB Profile

Endofdiscusion (IRE) is yet to win from 10 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 9 at Towcester (Nov 2013).

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
Official rating100↓ 3lb off peak
100 95–103

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 122B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Towcester, 30 Nov 2013 Official rating 100 at the last run, 26 Dec 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 122B · median 98
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good to Soft5122B98—
Good2109B108—
Heavy1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f7122B101—
2m5f – 3m298A97—

Of 10 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,280 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.8—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.2—
Good4,05344110.9%−0.90 from 2
Good to Soft2,93235412.1%+0.30 from 6
Soft5,87675112.8%+10 from 1
Heavy3,81744911.8%00 from 1
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.8—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.8—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.4—
2m1f – 2m4f6,08072411.9%+0.10 from 7
2m5f – 3m5,25762211.8%00 from 3
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Fake Tan (IRE) (Eagle Eyed)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
All About You (IRE)60——
Dontcall (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 4 5 0 0% −5.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Towcester 5 0 0% −5.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 7 0 0% −7.00
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Sam Jones 3 0 0% −3.00
Dominic Elsworth 3 0 0% −3.00
Denis O'Regan 2 0 0% −2.00
Charlie Poste 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom O'Brien 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 6 0 0% −6.00
None 4 0 0% −4.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 6 0 0% −6.00
2012 3 0 0% −3.00
2011 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 7 0 0% −7.00
Hurdle 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2013 · 6 runs
26 Dec 13+26d Towcester totepool Mobile Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20f · Heavy · 8 ran 7/8 2½ 11-12 10087C Charlie Poste 15/2
30 Nov 13+23d Towcester PDS Ltd 'Developing Ideas, Surpassing Expectations' Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 2¾ 11-12 97122B Sam Jones 7/1
07 Nov 13+198d Towcester Nasmyth 10th Anniversary Handicap Chase Class 5 · 21.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-10 97— Tom O'Brien 7/1
23 Apr 13+22d Towcester Ladbrokespoker.com Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good · 8 ran 2/8 nk 10-12 95109B Denis O'Regan 13/2
01 Apr 13+36d Huntingdon Noddy And Sarah Martin Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 3/5 12 11-12 99101B Denis O'Regan 9/4
24 Feb 13+86d Towcester Kevin Sullivan gg.com Forum Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 21.5f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 4/8 5 11-0 10398A Sam Jones 20/1
2012 · 3 runs
30 Nov 12+289d Doncaster Kelly's Scooping Ice Cream Novices' Chase Class 4 · 19f · Soft · 6 ran 5/6 49 11-1 —92C Dominic Elsworth 20/1
15 Feb 12+41d Southwell BetdaqAngel Free Betdaq Software Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 11/14 15 11-3 —97C Sam Jones 100/1
05 Jan 12+35d Ludlow Ludlow Members Club Room Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 21f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 7/15 3½ 11-6 —96C Dominic Elsworth 13/2
2011 · 1 run
01 Dec 11 Leicester Mountsorrel Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 20.5f · Good · 9 ran 3/9 1¼ 11-0 —107A Dominic Elsworth 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Endofdiscusion won?
Endofdiscusion (IRE) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2011 and 2013. Placed 3 times in total (30% of starts).
Who trained Endofdiscusion?
Endofdiscusion (IRE) was trained by Paul Webber on the most recent run on record, at Towcester on 26 December 2013.
Who is Endofdiscusion's sire?
Endofdiscusion (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Fake Tan (IRE), whose sire is Eagle Eyed.
What is Endofdiscusion's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 26 December 2013. The highest on record is 103.
What is Endofdiscusion's sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,280 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Endofdiscusion's siblings?
Out of Fake Tan (IRE), Endofdiscusion (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.