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For Talks Sake (FR)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2022) · Last trainer Paul Nolan · Last owner J R Brennan D J Sharkey
by Coastal Path (GB) out of Nosca De Thaix (FR) (Ragmar)
7 runs · 7 courses · from Dec 2019
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 Jan 2022 — 1,727 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2022 · 6th of 8 First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 116
KTB Profile

For Talks Sake (FR) is yet to win from 7 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 3rd of 13 at Tramore (Oct 2020). Last raced off a career-high mark of 116.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 142 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Tramore, 15 Oct 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 142B · median 78
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft2142B96.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 7 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (2) · no standard for this course, surface and code on the window (1) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 7 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 122A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Tramore, 15 Oct 2020 Official rating 116 at the last jumps run, 27 Jan 2022

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 75B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kilbeggan, 4 Sep 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 122A · median 106.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft2122A114.5—
Heavy2106A98.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2107A106.5—
1m5f – 2m1———
2m5f – 3m1———
Flat 3 figures · best 75B · median 73
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft375B73—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f275B74—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.8% of 2,204 runs since Jan 2008 (247 horses).

Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 16.9% from 498. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 7.1% from 495.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm21523.8%+11—
Good5036713.3%+0.5—
Good to Soft3484111.8%−1—
Soft87910912.4%−0.40 from 5
Heavy4215713.5%+0.70 from 2
Standard (AW)32412.5%−0.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f200%−12.8—
6f – 7f1100%−12.8—
1m – 1m1f500%−12.8—
1m2f – 1m4f54713%+0.2—
1m5f – 2m4988416.9%+4.10 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f1,01814414.1%+1.30 from 4
2m5f – 3m495357.1%−5.70 from 1
Over 3m1211310.7%−2.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Nosca De Thaix (FR) (Ragmar)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Klipper (FR) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m2f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Klipper (FR)712m2f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
B J Cooper 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr B O'Neill 2 0 0% −2.00
Miss S Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Simon Torrens 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr R Sugrue 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 0 0% −6.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2022 1 0 0% −1.00
2021 1 0 0% −1.00
2020 4 0 0% −4.00
2019 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00
Flat 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
27 Jan 22+30d Gowran Park Connolly's RED MILLS Irish EBF Ladies Auction Maiden Hurdle 20.5f · Soft · 8 ran 6/8 ½ 11-7 11651A107A Miss S Doyle 9/1
28 Dec 21+439d Limerick Keith Lynch Memorial Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 18 ran 11/18 13 11-6 —78C91C Simon Torrens 11/1
15 Oct 20+22d Tramore Woodstown Maiden Hurdle 21f · Yielding · 13 ran 3/13 1¼ 11-6 —142B122A B J Cooper 3/1
23 Sep 20+19d Listowel Listowel Vintners Association Flat Race 20f · Soft · 15 ran 5/15 6½ 12-2 ——73C Mr B O'Neill 5/1
04 Sep 20+233d Kilbeggan KilbegganRaces.com (Pro/Am) Flat Race 19.5f · Yielding · 12 ran 3/12 6 12-2 ——75B Mr B O'Neill 9/4J
15 Jan 20+20d Punchestown Ladbrokes Football 'Acca-Boosty' Maiden Hurdle 20f · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran 5/18 shd 11-9 ——106A B J Cooper 14/1
26 Dec 19 Leopardstown Meetings That Matter On Racing TV Flat Race 16f · Soft · 12 ran 6/12 nk 11-2 ——63A Mr R Sugrue 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has For Talks Sake (FR) won?
For Talks Sake (FR) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2019 and 2022. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
Who trained For Talks Sake (FR)?
For Talks Sake (FR) was trained by Paul Nolan on the most recent run on record, at Gowran Park on 27 January 2022.
Who is For Talks Sake (FR)'s sire?
For Talks Sake (FR) is by Coastal Path (GB) out of Nosca De Thaix (FR), whose sire is Ragmar.
What is For Talks Sake (FR)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 116, from the run on 27 January 2022. That is also the highest on record.
What is For Talks Sake (FR)'s sire's record?
Coastal Path (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.8% of 2,204 runs since Jan 2008 (247 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 16.9% from 498. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 7.1% from 495.
Who are For Talks Sake (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Nosca De Thaix (FR), For Talks Sake (FR) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Klipper (FR) (1). The wins came over 2m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.