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Horse profile

For The Roses (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Sep 2017) · Last trainer J P Murtagh · Last owner Qatar Racing Limited
by Nathaniel (IRE) out of Ivory Rose (GB) (Green Desert)
5 runs · 5 courses · from Aug 2016
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 18 Sep 2017 — 3,326 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2017 · 3rd of 3 Last raced off OR 68
KTB Profile

For The Roses (GB) is yet to win from 5 starts. Best effort: 3rd of 3 at Carlisle (Sep 2017). Last raced off a career-high mark of 68.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 77C · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Soft277C76.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f276C69.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 65A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Gowran Park, 22 Jul 2017 Official rating 68 at the last run, 18 Sep 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 5 figures · best 67A · median 64
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Soft265A59—
Heavy1———
Good1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f467A64.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Nathaniel (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 7,078 runs since Jan 2008 (635 horses).

Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 6.5% from 325.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm21419%+7.3—
Good to Firm78410213%+1.30 from 1
Good1,86723212.4%+0.70 from 1
Good to Soft1,00511411.3%−0.4—
Soft1,23314211.5%−0.20 from 2
Heavy4064711.6%−0.10 from 1
Standard (AW)1,76018410.5%−1.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f400%−11.7—
6f – 7f325216.5%−5.2—
1m – 1m1f879799%−2.70 from 4
1m2f – 1m4f2,50133313.3%+1.60 from 1
1m5f – 2m2,14025211.8%+0.1—
2m1f – 2m4f8229111.1%−0.6—
2m5f – 3m338329.5%−2.2—
Over 3m691724.6%+12.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ivory Rose (GB) (Green Desert)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Pivoine Blanche (GB)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Goodwood 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Oisin Murphy 2 0 0% −2.00
Ben Curtis 1 0 0% −1.00
Ronan Whelan 1 0 0% −1.00
Colin Keane 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 3 0 0% −3.00
None 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 3 0 0% −3.00
2016 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 3 runs
18 Sep 17+24d Carlisle Watch Racing UK On The Go Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 9f · Heavy · 3 ran 3/3 hd 9-0 6863C64C Ben Curtis 6/4
25 Aug 17+34d Killarney Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Fillies Maiden 11f · Yielding · 15 ran 9/15 4½ 9-0 —77C53A Ronan Whelan 10/1
22 Jul 17+326d Gowran Park Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Maiden 9.5f · Yielding · 17 ran 6/17 4½ 9-0 —76C65A Colin Keane 12/1
2016 · 2 runs
30 Aug 16+21d Goodwood EBF Stallions Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Plus 10) Class 5 · 8f · Good · 8 ran 7/8 ¾ 9-0 ——52A Oisin Murphy 5/1
09 Aug 16 Nottingham British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) Class 5 · 8.5f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 4/8 1¼ 9-0 ——67A Oisin Murphy 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has For The Roses won?
For The Roses (GB) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2016 and 2017.
Who trained For The Roses?
For The Roses (GB) was trained by J P Murtagh on the most recent run on record, at Carlisle on 18 September 2017.
Who is For The Roses's sire?
For The Roses (GB) is by Nathaniel (IRE) out of Ivory Rose (GB), whose sire is Green Desert.
What is For The Roses's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 68, from the run on 18 September 2017. That is also the highest on record.
What is For The Roses's sire's record?
Nathaniel (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 7,078 runs since Jan 2008 (635 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 6.5% from 325.
Who are For The Roses's siblings?
Out of Ivory Rose (GB), For The Roses (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.