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Horse profile

Forcryingoutloud (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2011) · Last trainer M J Grassick · Last owner Thomas Carmody
by Old Vic (GB) out of Bijubu (IRE) (Buckskin)
9 runs · 8 courses · from Aug 2009
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Jun 2011 — 5,595 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2011 · 9th of 19 Last raced off OR 93
KTB Profile

Forcryingoutloud (IRE) is yet to win from 9 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 8 at Stratford (Jul 2010). Last raced off a career-high mark of 93.

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 104C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Punchestown, 6 May 2011 Official rating 93 at the last jumps run, 19 Jun 2011

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 72B the best of the last 1 rated run · Kilbeggan, 8 Aug 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 7 figures · best 130A · median 106
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Firm4130A112.5—
Good3116A104—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m6130A110—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 9 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Old Vic (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm30413.3%+1.6—
Good to Firm3974411.1%−0.60 from 5
Good1,79724213.5%+1.80 from 3
Good to Soft1,1691159.8%−1.90 from 1
Soft2,05324912.1%+0.4—
Heavy1,44715710.9%−0.8—
Standard (AW)2300%−11.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f400%−11.7—
1m2f – 1m4f2428.3%−3.4—
1m5f – 2m1,49917311.5%−0.20 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f2,24926011.6%−0.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m2,39828411.8%+0.10 from 1
Over 3m7429212.4%+0.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 13 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Bijubu (IRE) (Buckskin)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Jimmyonecoat (IRE)130——
Killmoyco (IRE)110——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Stratford 2 0 0% −2.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 7 0 0% −7.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Richie McLernon 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr P Roche 3 0 0% −3.00
Davy Condon 2 0 0% −2.00
D J Casey 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 0 0% −7.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 3 0 0% −3.00
2010 3 0 0% −3.00
2009 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
19 Jun 11+17d Gowran Park Callan Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 16f · Good To Firm · 19 ran 9/19 ½ 11-3 93100A D J Casey 25/1
02 Jun 11+27d Tipperary Enjoy An Evening At Tipperary Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 19 ran 11/19 12 11-4 —84C Davy Condon 12/1
06 May 11+260d Punchestown Star Best for Racing Coverage Novice Hurdle 16f · Good · 15 ran 12/15 shd 11-5 —104C Davy Condon 66/1
19 Aug 10+21d Stratford Draycotts Electricians Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 22f · Good To Firm · 8 ran BD/8 — 10-9 —— Richie McLernon 5/1
29 Jul 10+36d Stratford Ian And June Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 18.5f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 2/8 5 10-11 —106A Richie McLernon 10/3F
23 Jun 10+256d Worcester Group Grandstand Value Package Just 15 Standard Open NH Flat Race (Div 1) Class 6 · 16f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 3/13 ½ 11-0 —119A Richie McLernon 3/1
10 Oct 09+14d Fairyhouse Membership 2010 (c & G) Flat Race 16f · Good · 16 ran 6/16 ¾ 11-11 —116A Mr P Roche 10/1
26 Sep 09+49d Navan Garlow Cross Flat Race 16f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 2/18 ½ 11-11 —130A Mr P Roche 10/1
08 Aug 09 Kilbeggan Tom Birmingham Menswear (pro/am) Flat Race 16f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 5/16 2 11-11 —72B Mr P Roche 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forcryingoutloud (IRE) won?
Forcryingoutloud (IRE) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2009 and 2011. Placed 3 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Forcryingoutloud (IRE)?
Forcryingoutloud (IRE) was trained by M J Grassick on the most recent run on record, at Gowran Park on 19 June 2011.
Who is Forcryingoutloud (IRE)'s sire?
Forcryingoutloud (IRE) is by Old Vic (GB) out of Bijubu (IRE), whose sire is Buckskin.
What is Forcryingoutloud (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 93, from the run on 19 June 2011. That is also the highest on record.
What is Forcryingoutloud (IRE)'s sire's record?
Old Vic (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.7% of 6,916 runs since Jan 2008 (630 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Forcryingoutloud (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Bijubu (IRE), Forcryingoutloud (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.