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Forever Louie (GB)

5yo gelding · Trainer Rebecca Menzies · Owner Friends Of J B House
by Forever Now (GB) out of Jontys'lass (GB) (Tamure)
5 runs · 3 courses · from Nov 2025
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
First-time headgear LTO Last run 22 Mar 2026 · 5th of 9
KTB Profile

Forever Louie is a gelding by Forever Now out of Jontys'lass who has yet to win from five starts on turf, with two places. He showed his best effort when second of 10 at Carlisle in Mar 2026. All three runs over 2m1f – 2m4f have come at Carlisle, Musselburgh and Catterick on good to soft or softer. His last run, at Carlisle in Mar 2026, was in a Class 4 novices' hurdle where he led and finished fifth of nine wearing first-time headgear.

Based on 5 archived runs · run-style from 5 commented runs since Nov 2025 · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 110 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Carlisle, 22 Mar 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 127A · median 107.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft2110A1052 runs · 110 / 105
Soft1——1 run · —
Good1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2110A107.52 runs · 110 / 107.5
1m5f – 2m2127A113.52 runs · 127 / 113.5

Of 5 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 126B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Musselburgh, 22 Dec 2025

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 126B · median 109
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft2126B114.52 runs · 126 / 114.5
Soft1——1 run · —
Good1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2115A1092 runs · 115 / 109
1m5f – 2m2126B114.52 runs · 126 / 114.5

Of 5 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 5 analysed runs since Nov 2025

  • Led 2 (40%) · 0 wins
  • Prominent 1 (20%) · 0 wins
  • Held up 1 (20%) · 0 wins
  • Mid-division 1 (20%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Forever Now (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.6% of 66 runs since Jul 2022 (12 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm300%−7.6—
Good2528%+0.40 from 1
Good to Soft15320%+12.40 from 2
Soft1500%−7.60 from 2
Heavy400%−7.6—
Standard (AW)400%−7.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f300%−7.6—
1m – 1m1f700%−7.6—
1m2f – 1m4f200%−7.6—
1m5f – 2m28414.3%+6.70 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f2314.3%−3.30 from 3
2m5f – 3m300%−7.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jul 2022 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Jontys'lass (GB) (Tamure)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Lady Babs (GB) (7 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Ryedale Racer (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Lady Babs (GB)3672m½f–2m1fClass 4
Ryedale Racer (GB)3652m–2m7½fClass 3
Zara's Universe (GB)4432m–2m1fClass 5
Bubbles'n'troubles (GB)20——
Annie Hobbs (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Carlisle 3 0 0% −3.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Nathan Moscrop 3 0 0% −3.00
Ross Chapman 2 0 0% −2.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 3 0 0% −3.00
2025 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2026 · 3 runs
22 Mar 26+14d Carlisle Pauline Phizacklea Memorial Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m1f · Good To Soft · 9 ran Just in front early - lost the advantage after 3rd but stayed in touch - hit 2 out and faded from there - finished 5th 5/9 5 11-5 110A103A Nathan Moscrop 13/2
08 Mar 26+20d Carlisle Safer Gambling At CopyBet Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m1f · Soft · 10 ran Held handy in the pack - driven out after the second-last - finished strongly to grab second but no answer to the winner 2/10 6 11-5 105B115A Nathan Moscrop 14/1
16 Feb 26+56d Carlisle Come Racing At Carlisle In 2026 Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m3½f · Soft · 10 ran Held up at the back throughout - jumped awkwardly 4th - pressed for effort after 3 out - found nothing and pulled up before 2 out PU/10 — 11-9 —— Ross Chapman 33/1
2025 · 2 runs
22 Dec 25+31d Musselburgh Virgin Bet Supports Safe Gambling Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good To Soft · 7 ran Front from the off - taken past at the home bend - plugged on one-paced over the final 2f to finish second 2/7 4 11-2 100B126B Nathan Moscrop 6/1
21 Nov 25 Catterick Thank You Team Ramshay Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 1m7½f · Good · 12 ran Settled in the pack - moved through group 4f out then driven on approaching 2f out - held no extra ground thereafter to finish sixth 6/12 ½ 11-2 127A103A Ross Chapman 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forever Louie won?
Forever Louie (GB) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2025 and 2026. Placed 2 times in total (40% of starts).
Who trains Forever Louie?
Forever Louie (GB) is trained by Rebecca Menzies, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 22 March 2026.
Who is Forever Louie's sire?
Forever Louie (GB) is by Forever Now (GB) out of Jontys'lass (GB), whose sire is Tamure.
What is Forever Louie's sire's record?
Forever Now (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.6% of 66 runs since Jul 2022 (12 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Forever Louie's siblings?
Out of Jontys'lass (GB), Forever Louie (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Lady Babs (GB) (7). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Ryedale Racer (GB)). The wins came over 2m–2m7½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from November 2025. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.