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Forgotten Promises (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2018) · Last trainer Christian Williams · Last owner C R P Williams
3 runs · 2 courses · from Jul 2018
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 21 Aug 2018 — 2,975 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2018 · 13th of 14
KTB Profile

Forgotten Promises (GB) is yet to win from 3 starts.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Flat 3 figures · best 45C · median 44
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)245C43.5—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f245C43.5—
6f – 7f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 44C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 21 Aug 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 3 figures · best 44C · median 42
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)244C43—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f244C43—
6f – 7f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 13,939 runs since Jan 2008 (1,089 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm65812.3%+1.8—
Good to Firm2,19925311.5%+10 from 1
Good2,9752949.9%−0.6—
Good to Soft1,46315810.8%+0.3—
Soft1,7371398%−2.5—
Heavy487377.6%−2.9—
Standard (AW)5,01258011.6%+1.10 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f84210512.5%+2—
6f – 7f5,02454610.9%+0.40 from 1
1m – 1m1f3,80941010.8%+0.30 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f2,6012459.4%−1.1—
1m5f – 2m1,12611410.1%−0.4—
2m1f – 2m4f395369.1%−1.4—
2m5f – 3m122119%−1.5—
Over 3m20210%−0.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 13 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

5 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Yimkin (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Yimkin (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Yimkin (IRE)611mClass 5
Miss Zenlingus (IRE)70——
That Lucas Fella (IRE)170——
Orphanina (IRE)40——
Another Dream (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kempton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Martin Dwyer 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Kelly 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
21 Aug 18+13d Kempton (AW) Better Odds With Matchbook Novice Stakes Class 5 · 8f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 13/14 ¾ 9-2 42C44C Shane Kelly 200/1
08 Aug 18+15d Kempton (AW) 32Red On The App Store Novice Stakes (Div 1) Class 4 · 8f · Standard To Slow · 11 ran 6/11 17 9-2 45C42C Martin Dwyer 100/1
24 Jul 18 Ffos Las European Breeders Fund Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 8/9 15 9-5 44C35C Martin Dwyer 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Forgotten Promises (GB) won?
Forgotten Promises (GB) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2018.
Who trained Forgotten Promises (GB)?
Forgotten Promises (GB) was trained by Christian Williams on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 21 August 2018.
Who is Forgotten Promises (GB)'s sire?
Forgotten Promises (GB) is by Iffraaj (GB) out of Orpha (GB), whose sire is New Approach.
What is Forgotten Promises (GB)'s sire's record?
Iffraaj (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 13,939 runs since Jan 2008 (1,089 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Forgotten Promises (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Orpha (GB), Forgotten Promises (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Yimkin (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Yimkin (IRE)). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.