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Four Fiddlers (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2012) · Last trainer N W Alexander · Last owner Dan Michelle Macdonald
by Accordion (IRE) out of Folle Idee De Luz (FR) (Reve Bleu)
15 runs · 5 courses · from Mar 2010
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 Oct 2012 — 5,121 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2012 Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

Four Fiddlers (IRE) is yet to win from 15 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 11 at Kelso (Mar 2012).

Based on 15 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
Official rating105↓ 6lb off peak
105 105–111

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 115A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Perth, 16 May 2012 Official rating 105 at the last run, 27 Oct 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 12 figures · best 119A · median 97
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good6119A110.5—
Soft496B91.5—
Good to Soft295C94—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5111A96—
1m5f – 2m4110A91.5—
2m5f – 3m3119A115—

Of 15 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 15 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Accordion (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 3,309 runs since Jan 2008 (327 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2015%−5.8—
Good to Firm2642710.2%−0.6—
Good9379910.6%−0.20 from 9
Good to Soft576549.4%−1.40 from 2
Soft89011012.4%+1.60 from 4
Heavy5916511%+0.2—
Standard (AW)3113.2%−7.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−10.8—
1m – 1m1f300%−10.8—
1m2f – 1m4f4648.7%−2.1—
1m5f – 2m7919011.4%+0.60 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f1,23214011.4%+0.60 from 5
2m5f – 3m9399610.2%−0.60 from 6
Over 3m293279.2%−1.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Folle Idee De Luz (FR) (Reve Bleu)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Star Player (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 2m4f–3m½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Star Player (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Star Player (IRE)1752m4f–3m½fClass 3
Praefectus (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 9 0 0% −9.00
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 11 0 0% −11.00
Class 6 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kelso 5 0 0% −5.00
Perth 4 0 0% −4.00
Ayr 4 0 0% −4.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 6 0 0% −6.00
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Lucy Alexander 14 0 0% −14.00
Peter Buchanan 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 7 0 0% −7.00
2011 6 0 0% −6.00
2010 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 11 0 0% −11.00
NH Flat 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 7 runs
27 Oct 12+30d Aintree Betfred Mobile Lotto Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 3m½f · Good · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-8 105— Lucy Alexander 20/1
27 Sep 12+134d Perth Check Betfair Before You Bet Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 3m · Good · 7 ran 3/7 2 10-9 105104B Lucy Alexander 9/1
16 May 12+21d Perth Perth Races Now Available On Racing Uk Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 3m · Good · 12 ran 4/12 6 11-3 107115A Lucy Alexander 25/1
25 Apr 12+32d Perth Aberdeen Asset Management Plc Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 4/7 19 10-11 11095C Lucy Alexander 4/1
24 Mar 12+21d Kelso John Rowe's Last Racecourse 60th Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m6½f · Good · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-12 111— Peter Buchanan 12/1
03 Mar 12+26d Kelso Bet Totepool Text Tote To 89660 Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m6½f · Good · 11 ran 2/11 1½ 11-5 105119A Lucy Alexander 13/2
06 Feb 12+93d Ayr Bet Mobile At BetVictor.com Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4f · Soft · 6 ran 4/6 3¼ 10-13 11196B Lucy Alexander 40/1
2011 · 6 runs
05 Nov 11+29d Kelso Premier Traffic Management 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m6½f · Good · 13 ran UR/13 — 10-5 111— Lucy Alexander 14/1
07 Oct 11+163d Carlisle Wootten Course 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3½f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 9 10-5 —98A Lucy Alexander 6/1
27 Apr 11+23d Perth Aberdeen Asset Management Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) Class 4 · 2m4f · Good · 14 ran 3/14 4½ 10-7 —111A Lucy Alexander 40/1
04 Apr 11+39d Kelso Duncan Sinclair Memorial Novices' Hurdle (Div 1) Class 4 · 2m2f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 7/14 nk 10-6 —93C Lucy Alexander 66/1
24 Feb 11+24d Ayr Best Odds Guaranteed At Victor Chandler Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Soft · 10 ran 4/10 19 10-9 —92A Lucy Alexander 18/1
31 Jan 11+71d Ayr Bet Now At victorchandler.com Standard NH Flat Race (Conditional Jockeys' And Amateur Riders') Class 6 · 2m · Good · 11 ran 3/11 8 10-11 —110A Lucy Alexander 40/1
2010 · 2 runs
21 Nov 10+241d Kelso Granny's Birthday Treat From E.F.C. Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Soft · 15 ran 4/15 11 10-7 —91C Lucy Alexander 50/1
25 Mar 10 Ayr Victor Chandler Standard NH Flat Race (Conds' And Amats') Class 6 · 2m · Soft · 7 ran 7/7 6 10-11 —82A Lucy Alexander 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Four Fiddlers won?
Four Fiddlers (IRE) has yet to win, from 15 archived starts between 2010 and 2012. Placed 3 times in total (20% of starts).
Who trained Four Fiddlers?
Four Fiddlers (IRE) was trained by N W Alexander on the most recent run on record, at Aintree on 27 October 2012.
Who is Four Fiddlers's sire?
Four Fiddlers (IRE) is by Accordion (IRE) out of Folle Idee De Luz (FR), whose sire is Reve Bleu.
What is Four Fiddlers's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 27 October 2012. The highest on record is 111.
What is Four Fiddlers's sire's record?
Accordion (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 3,309 runs since Jan 2008 (327 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Four Fiddlers's siblings?
Out of Folle Idee De Luz (FR), Four Fiddlers (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Star Player (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Star Player (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4f–3m½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from March 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.