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Horse profile

Grand Secret (FR)

4yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2020) · Last trainer R Martens · Last owner Patrick Widloecher
by Orpen (USA) out of Scarley Secret (IRE) (Royal Applause)
22 runs · 7 courses · from May 2018
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Jun 2020 — 2,338 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2020 · 10th of 13 New yard
KTB Profile

Grand Secret (FR) is yet to win from 22 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 13 at Deauville (FR) (Jan 2020).

Based on 22 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Orpen (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9% of 4,038 runs since Jan 2008 (381 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 4.4% from 113.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3912.6%−6.4—
Good to Firm438409.1%+0.10 from 1
Good891758.4%−0.60 from 5
Good to Soft501367.2%−1.80 from 4
Soft7197410.3%+1.30 from 2
Heavy285289.8%+0.80 from 1
Standard (AW)1,1611099.4%+0.40 from 9
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2422711.2%+2.20 from 4
6f – 7f1,31413510.3%+1.30 from 17
1m – 1m1f1,013939.2%+0.20 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f543356.4%−2.6—
1m5f – 2m511499.6%+0.6—
2m1f – 2m4f286196.6%−2.4—
2m5f – 3m11354.4%−4.6—
Over 3m1616.3%−2.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Scarley Secret (IRE) (Royal Applause)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Drole De Secret (FR) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m2½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Drole De Secret (FR)411m2½f—
Ilot Secret (FR)811m2½f—
Saint Clement (FR)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 9 0 0% −9.00
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Deauville (FR) 9 0 0% −9.00
Chantilly (FR) 5 0 0% −5.00
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 4 0 0% −4.00
Marseille Borely (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Le Mans (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Le Croise-Laroche (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 17 0 0% −17.00
Under 6f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Stephane Pasquier 5 0 0% −5.00
Maxime Guyon 3 0 0% −3.00
Mme Alison Massin 3 0 0% −3.00
Eddy Hardouin 2 0 0% −2.00
Pierre-Charles Boudot 2 0 0% −2.00
Mme Marie Waldhauser 1 0 0% −1.00
Sebastien Maillot 1 0 0% −1.00
Rosario Mangione 1 0 0% −1.00
Alexis Badel 1 0 0% −1.00
Simone Garau 1 0 0% −1.00
Mlle Coralie Pacaut 1 0 0% −1.00
Antoine Hamelin 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 15 0 0% −15.00
Cheekpieces 4 0 0% −4.00
None 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 5 0 0% −5.00
2019 13 0 0% −13.00
2018 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
2020 · 5 runs
02 Jun 20+20d Marseille Borely (FR) Prix de Bandol (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 8f · Good · 13 ran 10/13 6 8-3 Mme Marie Waldhauser 18/1
13 May 20+75d Chantilly (FR) Prix de Rosieres (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 17/17 15 9-4 Stephane Pasquier 14/1
28 Feb 20+48d Deauville (FR) Prix du Cap de la Hague (Handicap) (4yo) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 15 ran 7/15 1¾ 8-5 Eddy Hardouin 13/1
11 Jan 20+7d Deauville (FR) Prix d'Hennequeville (Handicap) (4yo) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 13 ran 4/13 hd 8-7 Sebastien Maillot 37/10F
04 Jan 20+13d Deauville (FR) Prix de la Seullette (Handicap) (4yo) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 13 ran 2/13 hd 9-1 Maxime Guyon 12/5F
2019 · 13 runs
22 Dec 19+21d Deauville (FR) Prix du Massif Armoricain (Handicap) (3yo) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 16 ran 3/16 shd 8-11 Stephane Pasquier 87/10
01 Dec 19+33d Deauville (FR) Prix d'Occagnes (Handicap) (3yo) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 14 ran 4/14 shd 9-3 Stephane Pasquier 44/5
29 Oct 19+18d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Neauphle-le-Vieux (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 6.5f · Heavy · 14 ran 13/14 1 9-0 Maxime Guyon 10/1
11 Oct 19+15d Chantilly (FR) Prix de Saint-Witz (Handicap) (3yo) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 17 ran 6/17 ½ 9-1 Pierre-Charles Boudot 15/1
26 Sep 19+44d Le Mans (FR) Prix Groupama (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 7f · Good · 12 ran 7/12 shd 9-2 Mme Alison Massin 21/1
13 Aug 19+18d Deauville (FR) Prix du Champ Durand (Handicap) (3yo) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 15 ran 14/15 ¾ 8-5 Rosario Mangione 65/1
26 Jul 19+23d Deauville (FR) Prix du Desert de Retz (Handicap) (3yo) (Straight Course) (Turf) 6f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 12/12 2 8-5 Alexis Badel 15/1
03 Jul 19+8d Deauville (FR) Prix du Cidre (Handicap) (3yo) (Straight Course) (Turf) 6f · Good · 13 ran 2/13 shd 8-13 Stephane Pasquier 11/1
25 Jun 19+17d Le Croise-Laroche (FR) Prix d'Ostende (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 5.5f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 4/11 ¾ 9-3 Mme Alison Massin 5/1
08 Jun 19+28d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de la Ville du Mesnil-le-Roi (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Very Soft · 15 ran 10/15 3½ 7-11 Mme Alison Massin 50/1
11 May 19+33d Chantilly (FR) Prix de la Montee des Princes (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Very Soft · 14 ran 4/14 1¾ 8-13 Stephane Pasquier 44/5
08 Apr 19+11d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Bois des Bouleaux (Claimer) (3yo Colts & Geldings) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 11 ran 6/11 nse 8-9 Simone Garau 62/1
28 Mar 19+160d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Clos du Prieure (Handicap) (3yo) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 10 ran 9/10 5½ 8-0 Mlle Coralie Pacaut 60/1
2018 · 4 runs
19 Oct 18+21d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix des Petrons (Claimer) (2yo) (Turf) 5.5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 8/9 5 9-4 Maxime Guyon 29/10
28 Sep 18+82d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix de Levis Saint-nom (Claimer) (2yo) (Turf) 7f · Good · 12 ran 8/12 hd 9-1 Pierre-Charles Boudot 26/5
08 Jul 18+53d Deauville (FR) Qatar Prix de Saint-Hymer (Maiden) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Turf) 5.5f · Good · 6 ran 4/6 2½ 9-2 Antoine Hamelin 51/10
16 May 18 Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Kefalin (Maiden) (2yo) (Turf) 5f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 7/8 5 8-11 Eddy Hardouin 15/2

Quick answers

How many races has Grand Secret won?
Grand Secret (FR) has yet to win, from 22 archived starts between 2018 and 2020. Placed 3 times in total (13.6% of starts).
Who trained Grand Secret?
Grand Secret (FR) was trained by R Martens on the most recent run on record, at Marseille Borely (FR) on 2 June 2020.
Who is Grand Secret's sire?
Grand Secret (FR) is by Orpen (USA) out of Scarley Secret (IRE), whose sire is Royal Applause.
What is Grand Secret's sire's record?
Orpen (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9% of 4,038 runs since Jan 2008 (381 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 4.4% from 113.
Who are Grand Secret's siblings?
Out of Scarley Secret (IRE), Grand Secret (FR) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Drole De Secret (FR) (1). The wins came over 1m2½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.