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Horse profile

Grey Messenger (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, May 2018) · Last trainer Emma-Jane Bishop · Last owner Mrs E J Bishop
by Heron Island (IRE) out of Turlututu (FR) (Turgeon)
21 runs · 11 courses · from Nov 2013
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 10 May 2018 — 3,092 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2018 Last raced off OR 66
KTB Profile

Grey Messenger (IRE) is yet to win from 21 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 3rd of 10 at Worcester (Jun 2016). Last raced off 66, 23lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 21 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 23lb off peak
Official rating66↓ 23lb off peak
66 66–89

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 53 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Exeter, 1 Nov 2016

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 95C · median 79
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good295C74—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f395C79—

Of 7 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (4).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 7 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 87A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Exeter, 1 Nov 2016 Official rating 66 at the last run, 10 May 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 13 figures · best 111A · median 84
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good8104A82—
Good to Soft294C89.5—
Soft2111A96—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5111A87—
2m5f – 3m4104A82.5—
1m5f – 2m494C82.5—

Of 21 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (8).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 21 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Heron Island (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 2,819 runs since Jan 2008 (317 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1200%−11.20 from 1
Good to Firm1622314.2%+30 from 1
Good8108310.2%−10 from 13
Good to Soft4745712%+0.80 from 2
Soft8479210.9%−0.30 from 4
Heavy5015811.6%+0.4—
Standard (AW)13215.4%+4.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−11.2—
1m2f – 1m4f18316.7%+5.5—
1m5f – 2m8859610.8%−0.40 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f1,00010710.7%−0.50 from 11
2m5f – 3m7478811.8%+0.60 from 5
Over 3m1682112.5%+1.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Turlututu (FR) (Turgeon)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Rooster Spirit (IRE)100——
Grey Lantern (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 13 0 0% −13.00
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 9 0 0% −9.00
Class 4 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Worcester 6 0 0% −6.00
Southwell 4 0 0% −4.00
Leicester 2 0 0% −2.00
Stratford 2 0 0% −2.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Downpatrick 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 11 0 0% −11.00
2m5f – 3m 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
James Banks 13 0 0% −13.00
Jamie Moore 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr S Crawford 2 0 0% −2.00
Brendan Powell 1 0 0% −1.00
James Davies 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Bowen 1 0 0% −1.00
Harrison Beswick 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 15 0 0% −15.00
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 3 0 0% −3.00
2016 9 0 0% −9.00
2015 3 0 0% −3.00
2014 5 0 0% −5.00
2013 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 12 0 0% −12.00
Chase 5 0 0% −5.00
NH Flat 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2018 · 3 runs
10 May 18+15d Worcester Weatherbys Stallion Book Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good · 10 ran UR/10 — 10-0 66—— Brendan Powell 66/1
25 Apr 18+104d Taunton Simple Minds In Concert 2nd September Handicap Chase Class 5 · 21.5f · Good · 10 ran UR/10 — 10-0 69—— Jamie Moore 14/1
11 Jan 18+410d Leicester Hose Thorns Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Soft · 15 ran UR/15 — 10-0 69—— James Banks 50/1
2016 · 9 runs
27 Nov 16+19d Leicester Draincare Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20f · Firm · 7 ran UR/7 — 10-0 69—— James Davies 7/1
08 Nov 16+7d Lingfield R And R Electrical Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 4/7 15 10-0 6979C70C James Banks 12/1
01 Nov 16+35d Exeter Breeders Cup Betting At 188bet Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 18.5f · Good · 14 ran 9/14 shd 10-0 6953B87A James Banks 16/1
27 Sep 16+28d Southwell Join At The Races On Facebook Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 20.5f · Good · 13 ran 8/13 2 10-2 7695C70C Jamie Moore 14/1
30 Aug 16+16d Worcester totepool Follow Us On Twitter Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-4 83—— Sean Bowen 8/1
14 Aug 16+17d Southwell Coopers Marquees Ltd Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 24f · Good · 9 ran 6/9 ¾ 10-12 85—80C James Banks 12/1
28 Jul 16+29d Stratford Bordeaux Undiscovered Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 22f · Good · 10 ran 8/10 2½ 10-13 87—76C James Banks 7/1
29 Jun 16+33d Worcester Smithfield Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 23f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 28 10-13 87—85A James Banks 8/1
27 May 16+200d Worcester Ladbrokes Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 23f · Good · 15 ran 3/15 3 10-11 84—104A James Banks 66/1
2015 · 3 runs
09 Nov 15+26d Southwell Southwell Beer Festival Weekend 12th December Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 20.5f · Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 10-12 89—— James Banks 20/1
14 Oct 15+4d Worcester Book Christmas Parties At Worcester Racecourse Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good · 9 ran 7/9 13 10-5 ——89C Harrison Beswick 250/1
10 Oct 15+334d Chepstow Toteplacepot Racing's Favourite Bet 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 10 ran UR/10 — 10-9 ——— James Banks 100/1
2014 · 5 runs
10 Nov 14+35d Southwell 32Red.com 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 12/14 18 10-7 ——94C James Banks 100/1
06 Oct 14+10d Stratford Grundon Waste Management 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 18.5f · Good · 7 ran F/7 — 10-7 ——— James Banks 66/1
26 Sep 14+106d Worcester 32Red.com Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 7/10 2 10-9 ——84C James Banks 33/1
12 Jun 14+81d Uttoxeter Don Amott Leisure Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good · 9 ran 6/9 30 10-10 ——75C James Banks 8/1
23 Mar 14+126d Downpatrick Q Radio (pro/am) Flat Race 18f · Soft · 11 ran 3/11 2¾ 12-0 ——111A Mr S Crawford 16/1
2013 · 1 run
17 Nov 13 Punchestown Dick Grainger Memorial (Pro/Am) Flat Race 16f · Yielding · 14 ran 13/14 12 11-4 ——81C Mr S Crawford 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Grey Messenger won?
Grey Messenger (IRE) has yet to win, from 21 archived starts between 2013 and 2018. Placed 3 times in total (14.3% of starts).
Who trained Grey Messenger?
Grey Messenger (IRE) was trained by Emma-Jane Bishop on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 10 May 2018.
Who is Grey Messenger's sire?
Grey Messenger (IRE) is by Heron Island (IRE) out of Turlututu (FR), whose sire is Turgeon.
What is Grey Messenger's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 66, from the run on 10 May 2018. The highest on record is 89.
What is Grey Messenger's sire's record?
Heron Island (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 2,819 runs since Jan 2008 (317 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 14.2% from 162.
Who are Grey Messenger's siblings?
Out of Turlututu (FR), Grey Messenger (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.