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Horse profile

Hard To Call (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2017) · Last trainer Gordon Elliott · Last owner John P Mcmanus
by Presenting (GB) out of Jay Lo (IRE) (Glacial Storm)
9 runs · 7 courses · from Mar 2016
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 4 Jun 2017 — 3,432 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2017 Won at Limerick Last raced off OR 122
KTB Profile

Hard To Call (IRE) is 1 from 9. Hasn't won since Apr 2016.

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 14 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Navan, 24 Sep 2016

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 2 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 124A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kilbeggan (IRE), 6 Aug 2016 Official rating 122 at the last run, 4 Jun 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 136A · median 110.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Soft2104A100—
Good to Soft2110A108.5—
Good2124A117.5—
Good to Firm1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f4124A115—
1m5f – 2m2136A116—
Over 3m1———
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 9 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Presenting (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,050 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm621321%+10—
Good to Firm1,24017113.8%+2.80 from 1
Good7,02284012%+10 from 2
Good to Soft3,5033219.2%−1.80 from 3
Soft5,32754510.2%−0.80 from 2
Heavy2,7602749.9%−1.11 from 1
Standard (AW)1363324.3%+13.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−11—
1m – 1m1f400%−11—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m4,72751710.9%−0.11 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f6,69772210.8%−0.20 from 4
2m5f – 3m6,53774211.4%+0.40 from 1
Over 3m2,01821010.4%−0.60 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Jay Lo (IRE) (Glacial Storm)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Carrick Roads (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m3f–3m2½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Carrick Roads (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Carrick Roads (IRE)1522m7f–3m2½fClass 4
The Backup Plan (IRE)1922m3½fClass 4
Huntingtown (IRE)1312m3f—
Materiana (IRE)30——
Also Known As (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 1 100% +1.50

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kilbeggan 3 0 0% −3.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 1 100% +1.50
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 2 1 50% +0.50
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mark Walsh 5 0 0% −5.00
Barry Geraghty 2 0 0% −2.00
Keith Donoghue 1 0 0% −1.00
Jack Kennedy 1 1 100% +1.50

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 1 0 0% −1.00
2016 8 1 13% −5.50

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 5 0 0% −5.00
Hurdle 4 1 25% −1.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 1 run
04 Jun 17+253d Kilbeggan Like Kilbeggan Races On Facebook Handicap Chase (0-123) 25f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran PU/14 — 11-11 122—— Keith Donoghue 12/1
2016 · 8 runs
24 Sep 16+36d Navan Emerald Facility Services Beginners Chase 20f · Yielding To Soft · 10 ran 5/10 1 11-12 12214A104A Mark Walsh 3/1
19 Aug 16+13d Kilbeggan www.kilbegganraces.com Beginners Chase 25f · Good To Yielding · 8 ran 5/8 3¼ 11-12 ——107C Mark Walsh 10/3
06 Aug 16+54d Kilbeggan (IRE) Kieran Kelly Memorial Beginners Chase 20f · Good · 14 ran 4/14 1¼ 11-12 ——124A Mark Walsh 5/2F
13 Jun 16+31d Roscommon Ladies Day At Roscommon On July 4th Beginners Chase 20f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 2/6 7½ 11-12 ——120B Barry Geraghty 7/2
13 May 16+16d Kilbeggan Follow Kilbeggan Racecourse On Twitter Novice Hurdle 24.5f · Good · 6 ran 3/6 15 11-10 123—111B Mark Walsh 5/6F
27 Apr 16+24d Punchestown Louis Fitzgerald Hotel Hurdle 20f · Good To Yielding · 11 ran 8/11 3¼ 11-12 123—110A Barry Geraghty 12/1
03 Apr 16+29d Limerick Martinstown Opportunity (c & G) Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 11 ran 1/11 11-12 ——136A Jack Kennedy 6/4F
05 Mar 16 Gowran Park Best Of Luck To The Irish At Cheltenham Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 14 ran 4/14 15 11-12 ——96C Mark Walsh 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Hard To Call won?
Hard To Call (IRE) won 1 of 9 archived starts between 2016 and 2017, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trained Hard To Call?
Hard To Call (IRE) was trained by Gordon Elliott on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 4 June 2017.
Who is Hard To Call's sire?
Hard To Call (IRE) is by Presenting (GB) out of Jay Lo (IRE), whose sire is Glacial Storm.
What is Hard To Call's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 122, from the run on 4 June 2017. The highest on record is 123.
What is Hard To Call's sire's record?
Presenting (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,050 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.
Who are Hard To Call's siblings?
Out of Jay Lo (IRE), Hard To Call (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Carrick Roads (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Carrick Roads (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3f–3m2½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.