Idea (USA)
Idea (USA) is 2 from 7. Hasn't won since Jun 2014. Each win came on a first visit to the course.
- 2–7Wins / Runs
- 28.6%Strike rate
- 2 (28.6%)Placed
- +0.88£1 level staken=7 at SP
- 1.91Fair A/E n=7 · 1.58 incl. margin
- 89Highest OR
- 54dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.4% of 1,610 runs since Jan 2008 (130 horses).
Strongest on standard (aw) going: 14.4% from 631. Weakest on good to soft going: 4.9% from 162. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 8.3% from 181.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 9 | 1 | 11.1% | −0.3 | — |
| Good to Firm | 235 | 22 | 9.4% | −2 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 332 | 43 | 13% | +1.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 162 | 8 | 4.9% | −6.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 191 | 14 | 7.3% | −4.1 | 1 from 2 |
| Heavy | 50 | 5 | 10% | −1.4 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 631 | 91 | 14.4% | +3 | 1 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 56 | 8 | 14.3% | +2.9 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 468 | 57 | 12.2% | +0.8 | 2 from 5 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 453 | 64 | 14.1% | +2.7 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 385 | 36 | 9.4% | −2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 181 | 15 | 8.3% | −3.1 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 53 | 4 | 7.5% | −3.9 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.4 | — |
| Over 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −11.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Argumentative (GB) (1 win).
The wins came over 1m.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Argumentative (GB) | 3 | 1 | 1m | — |
| Quick Chat (USA) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Never Another (USA) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Pressburg (USA) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.50 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.38 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 2 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 3 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +0.38 |
| Class 5 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.50 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newmarket | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ascot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.38 |
| York | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Windsor | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.50 |
| Goodwood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 5 | 2 | 40% | +2.88 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| James Doyle | 6 | 2 | 33% | +1.88 |
| Royston Ffrench | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 | 5 | 1 | 20% | −2.62 |
| 2013 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 16 Aug 14+35d | Chester | Stella Artois Handicap | 10/12 | 3 | 8-7 | 87 | 68A | Royston Ffrench | 14/1 |
| 12 Jul 14+23d | Newmarket | Spa At Bedford Lodge Hotel Mile (Handicap) | 11/12 | 1 | 8-11 | 89 | 64A | James Doyle | 6/1J |
| 19 Jun 14+14d | Ascot | Britannia Stakes (Heritage Handicap) (Str) | 16/30 | ¾ | 8-6 | 89 | 77A | James Doyle | 10/1 |
| 05 Jun 14+22d | Kempton (AW) | BetVictor.com Handicap | 1/10 | 8-11 | 79 | 92A | James Doyle | 11/8F | |
| 14 May 14+212d | York | Conundrum HR Consulting Handicap | 9/18 | 1½ | 8-10 | 79 | 72A | James Doyle | 4/1 |
| 14 Oct 13+19d | Windsor | British Stallion Studs E.B.F. Maiden Stakes | 1/9 | 9-5 | — | 104A | James Doyle | 9/2 | |
| 25 Sep 13 | Goodwood | British Stallion Studs E.b.f. Maiden Stakes | UR/15 | — | 9-5 | — | — | James Doyle | 5/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Idea (USA) won?
- Idea (USA) won 2 of 7 archived starts between 2013 and 2014, a strike rate of 28.6%. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
- Who trained Idea (USA)?
- Idea (USA) was trained by Sir Michael Stoute on the most recent run on record, at Chester on 16 August 2014.
- Who is Idea (USA)'s sire?
- Idea (USA) is by Mizzen Mast (USA) out of Discuss (USA), whose sire is Danzig.
- What is Idea (USA)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 16 August 2014. The highest on record is 89.
- What is Idea (USA)'s sire's record?
- Mizzen Mast (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.4% of 1,610 runs since Jan 2008 (130 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 14.4% from 631. Weakest on good to soft going: 4.9% from 162. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 8.3% from 181.
- Who are Idea (USA)'s siblings?
- Out of Discuss (USA), Idea (USA) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Argumentative (GB) (1). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.