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Horse profile

Idontknow Hisname (IRE)

2yo colt (at last run, Oct 2021) · Last trainer W M Roper · Last owner Michael H Keogh
by Prince Of Lir (IRE) out of Date Mate (USA) (Thorn Dance)
2 runs · 2 courses · from Oct 2021
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Oct 2021 — 1,827 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2021 · 16th of 17
KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts, both in Oct 2021, the last of them as a 2yo colt. Finished 16 of 17 at Curragh last time. By Prince Of Lir (IRE), whose progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 1,378 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 46C · median 41
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f246C41—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 54A the best of the last 2 rated runs · Limerick, 9 Oct 2021

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 2 figures · best 54A · median 47
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f254A47—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 1,378 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 15% from 200.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−8.9—
Good to Firm2003015%+6.1—
Good329298.8%−0.1—
Good to Soft115108.7%−0.2—
Soft214167.5%−1.40 from 1
Heavy7256.9%−20 from 1
Standard (AW)447337.4%−1.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3423811.1%+2.2—
6f – 7f758658.6%−0.30 from 2
1m – 1m1f164127.3%−1.6—
1m2f – 1m4f5335.7%−3.2—
1m5f – 2m41512.2%+3.3—
2m1f – 2m4f1900%−8.9—
2m5f – 3m100%−8.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Date Mate (USA) (Thorn Dance)

At least 12 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Truancy (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 6f–2m; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Soraaya (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Truancy (IRE)1357f–1m2fClass 2
Soraaya (IRE)426fGroup 3
Declaration Of War (IRE)826fListed
Mean Machine (IRE)2612m—
Freak Occurence (IRE)811m2fClass 5
Sahaayeb (IRE)30——
My Mate (IRE)210——
Beckett Hall (IRE)120——
Dark Ambition (IRE)120——
Rooney O'mara (GB)90——
Ferdowsi (GB)70——
Foxy Dancer (IRE)50——

The twelve with most wins are shown; the family holds more.

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2021 · 2 runs
26 Oct 21+17d Curragh Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Maiden 6f · Soft · 17 ran 16/17 3¾ 9-7 36C40C Donagh O'Connor 200/1
09 Oct 21 Limerick Follow Limerick Racecourse On Twitter Maiden 7f · Heavy · 16 ran 10/16 nk 9-7 46C54A Donagh O'Connor 150/1

Quick answers

How many races has Idontknow Hisname won?
Idontknow Hisname (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts in 2021.
Who trained Idontknow Hisname?
Idontknow Hisname (IRE) was trained by W M Roper on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 26 October 2021.
Who is Idontknow Hisname's sire?
Idontknow Hisname (IRE) is by Prince Of Lir (IRE) out of Date Mate (USA), whose sire is Thorn Dance.
What is Idontknow Hisname's sire's record?
Prince Of Lir (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 1,378 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 15% from 200.
Who are Idontknow Hisname's siblings?
Out of Date Mate (USA), Idontknow Hisname (IRE) has at least 12 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Truancy (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Soraaya (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–2m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2021. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.