If Or When (IRE)
If Or When (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 9 at Curragh (Oct 2012).
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, If Or When (IRE) has 2 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins Whenapoet (GB) (1 win).
The wins came over 1m; the highest grade won is Class 6 (Whenapoet (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whenapoet (GB) | 16 | 1 | 1m | Class 6 |
| Lost On You (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
- 0–3Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (33.3%)Placed
- −3.00£1 level staken=3 at SP
- 190dAvg between runs
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 7,491 runs since Jan 2008 (533 horses).
Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 17.7% from 192.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 50 | 6 | 12% | +1.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 646 | 79 | 12.2% | +1.7 | — |
| Good | 2,074 | 240 | 11.6% | +1.1 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1,139 | 111 | 9.7% | −0.8 | — |
| Soft | 1,712 | 154 | 9% | −1.5 | — |
| Heavy | 649 | 65 | 10% | −0.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 1,220 | 132 | 10.8% | +0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 192 | 34 | 17.7% | +7.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 691 | 60 | 8.7% | −1.8 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,214 | 125 | 10.3% | −0.2 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1,248 | 127 | 10.2% | −0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,812 | 182 | 10% | −0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,552 | 171 | 11% | +0.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 646 | 66 | 10.2% | −0.3 | — |
| Over 3m | 136 | 22 | 16.2% | +5.7 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Tetraites (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 2m.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tetraites (IRE) | 22 | 1 | 2m | — |
| Spanish Danser (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Galway | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Dundalk (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Curragh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ms N Carberry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| N G McCullagh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Johnny Murtagh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2012 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 · 1 run | ||||||||
| 28 Oct 13+360d | Galway | www.swordsecurity.com (Q.R.) Race | 11/13 | 1¼ | 10-9 | 59C | Ms N Carberry | 10/1 |
| 2012 · 2 runs | ||||||||
| 02 Nov 12+19d | Dundalk (AW) | Racing Post Maiden | 8/14 | nk | 9-0 | 63A | N G McCullagh | 9/2 |
| 14 Oct 12 | Curragh | Foleys Antiques European Breeders Fund Fillies Maiden | 3/9 | 2 | 9-0 | 69A | Johnny Murtagh | 2/1F |
Quick answers
- How many races has If Or When won?
- If Or When (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts between 2012 and 2013. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
- Who trained If Or When?
- If Or When (IRE) was trained by Ross O'Sullivan on the most recent run on record, at Galway on 28 October 2013.
- Who is If Or When's sire?
- If Or When (IRE) is by Dylan Thomas (IRE) out of Highwater Dancer (IRE), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
- What is If Or When's sire's record?
- Dylan Thomas (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 7,491 runs since Jan 2008 (533 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 17.7% from 192.
- Who are If Or When's siblings?
- Out of Highwater Dancer (IRE), If Or When (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Tetraites (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Oct 2026.
- Has If Or When produced winners?
- As a dam, If Or When (IRE) has 2 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Whenapoet (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 6 (Whenapoet (GB)). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.