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If You Say Run (IRE)

8yo mare (at last run, Feb 2020) · Last trainer Paul Nicholls · Last owner Highclere Tbred Racing If You Say Run
by Mahler (GB) out of De Lissa (IRE) (Zaffaran)
16 runs · 12 courses · from Apr 2017
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Feb 2020 — 2,462 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2020 · 2nd of 3 5 wins · Worcester, Wincanton & Chepstow Last raced off OR 137
KTB Profile

If You Say Run (IRE) is 5 from 16. Hasn't won since Oct 2019.

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
Official rating137↓ 7lb off peak
137 126–144

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 129 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Sandown, 16 Feb 2018

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 13 figures · best 140C · median 126
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft5130B115—
Good4140C128.5—
Soft291C50.5—
Heavy2129A90.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f7130B88—
2m5f – 3m4140C128.5—
1m5f – 2m2126A108.5—

Of 16 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (2) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 16 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 128B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wincanton, 26 Dec 2019 Official rating 137 at the last run, 7 Feb 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 14 figures · best 141A · median 127.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft5132A126—
Good4141A133—
Heavy3139B134—
Soft2121C116—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f7134A128—
2m5f – 3m4141A125.5—
1m5f – 2m3139B139—

Of 16 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 8,877 runs since Sep 2014 (787 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 15.1% from 119.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm1191815.1%+4.3—
Good2,97437812.7%+1.92 from 4
Good to Soft1,8181799.8%−12 from 6
Soft2,7422599.4%−1.40 from 3
Heavy1,21412410.2%−0.61 from 3
Standard (AW)10110%−0.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f500%−10.8—
1m2f – 1m4f1600%−10.8—
1m5f – 2m2,0491999.7%−1.12 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f3,21232410.1%−0.72 from 9
2m5f – 3m2,82634112.1%+1.31 from 4
Over 3m7699512.4%+1.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Sep 2014 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
De Lissa (IRE) (Zaffaran)

3 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Vincent Row (IRE)350——
Craignure (IRE)50——
Sir Vinnie (IRE)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 6 2 33% +0.67
Good 4 2 50% +1.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 3 1 33% −1.50

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 7 0 0% −7.00
Class 4 5 3 60% +3.17
Class 2 2 1 50% +0.50
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 1 100% +1.50

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wincanton 4 2 50% +0.00
Chepstow 2 2 100% +5.50
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 1 100% +0.67
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 9 2 22% −2.33
2m5f – 3m 4 1 25% −1.50
1m5f – 2m 3 2 67% +1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Harry Cobden 7 3 43% −1.33
Sam Twiston-Davies 5 2 40% +2.50
Bryony Frost 3 0 0% −3.00
Sean Bowen 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 10 4 40% +1.50
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 6 1 17% −4.33

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 1 0 0% −1.00
2019 6 1 17% −4.33
2018 4 1 25% −1.50
2017 5 3 60% +4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 11 3 27% −2.00
Chase 4 1 25% −2.33
NH Flat 1 1 100% +1.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2020 · 1 run
07 Feb 20+43d Bangor-on-Dee tote Placepot First Bet Of The Day EBF Mares' Novices' Chase Class 4 · 2m4½f · Soft · 3 ran 2/3 5½ 11-4 13710C121C Bryony Frost 10/11
2019 · 6 runs
26 Dec 19+47d Wincanton Towergate Property Insurance EBF/TBA Mares' Novices' Chase Class 3 · 2m4f · Heavy · 4 ran 2/4 4 11-5 13852C128B Bryony Frost 1/2F
09 Nov 19+30d Wincanton John Romans Park Homes 'Rising Stars' Novices' Chase (Grade 2) Class 1 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 2/5 3¾ 10-9 14088C126B Harry Cobden 3/1
10 Oct 19+209d Worcester Ebf Mares' Novices' Chase Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 1/5 10-12 14075C126B Harry Cobden 4/6F
15 Mar 19+27d Cheltenham Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m4½f · Good To Soft · 24 ran PU/24 — 11-6 141—— Bryony Frost 14/1
16 Feb 19+28d Haydock olbg.com Mares' Hurdle (Listed) (Registered As The Warwick Mares' Hurdle) Class 1 · 2m3f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 2/5 nk 11-0 143115C130B Sean Bowen 7/4F
19 Jan 19+54d Ascot olbg.com Mares' Hurdle (Grade 2) (Registered As The Warfield) Class 1 · 2m7½f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 3/6 1¼ 11-0 144127A122B Harry Cobden 5/2
2018 · 4 runs
26 Nov 18+16d Kempton OLBG Mares' Hurdle (Listed) Class 1 · 3m½f · Good · 4 ran 2/4 2 10-12 140140C127B Harry Cobden 7/4
10 Nov 18+231d Wincanton Hunts Food Service Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m5½f · Good · 7 ran 1/7 11-5 131128A141A Harry Cobden 6/4F
24 Mar 18+36d Newbury EBF & TBA Mares' 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Finale (Limited Handicap) (Grade 2) Class 1 · 2m4½f · Soft · 16 ran PU/16 — 11-7 132—— Sam Twiston-Davies 8/1
16 Feb 18+48d Sandown Weatherbys General Stud Book Jane Seymour Mares' Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) Class 1 · 2m4f · Heavy · 10 ran 2/10 2¾ 11-2 130129A134A Sam Twiston-Davies 11/2
2017 · 5 runs
30 Dec 17+4d Taunton totetrifecta Mares' Novices' Hurdle (Listed) Class 1 · 2m½f · Soft · 5 ran 2/5 30 11-2 12691C111B Sam Twiston-Davies 3/1
26 Dec 17+47d Wincanton Fry's Electrical & Mechanical Mares' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 1m7½f · Heavy · 6 ran 1/6 11-2 126—139B Harry Cobden 1/2F
09 Nov 17+26d Ludlow Watch Racing Uk On Sky 432 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 1 10-12 —129B124B Harry Cobden 2/7F
14 Oct 17+180d Chepstow totescoop6 Mares' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3½f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 1/14 10-12 —130B132A Sam Twiston-Davies 4/1
17 Apr 17 Chepstow Army Cadets Wales Supporting NSPCC Mares' Standard Open NH Flat Race (Div 2) Class 6 · 2m · Good · 7 ran 1/7 11-0 —126A139A Sam Twiston-Davies 6/4F

Quick answers

How many races has If You Say Run won?
If You Say Run (IRE) won 5 of 16 archived starts between 2017 and 2020, a strike rate of 31.3%. Placed 10 times in total (62.5% of starts).
Who trained If You Say Run?
If You Say Run (IRE) was trained by Paul Nicholls on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 7 February 2020.
Who is If You Say Run's sire?
If You Say Run (IRE) is by Mahler (GB) out of De Lissa (IRE), whose sire is Zaffaran.
What going does If You Say Run prefer?
If You Say Run (IRE) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 4 starts (50%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is If You Say Run's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 137, from the run on 7 February 2020. The highest on record is 144.
What is If You Say Run's sire's record?
Mahler (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 8,877 runs since Sep 2014 (787 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 15.1% from 119.
Who are If You Say Run's siblings?
Out of De Lissa (IRE), If You Say Run (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.