Illogical Hope (IRE)
Illogical Hope (IRE) is 2 from 12. Won last time out at Ffos Las (Class 5). Both wins came on good or faster ground (0 from 9 on softer).
- 2–12Wins / Runs
- 16.7%Strike rate
- 2 (16.7%)Placed
- +32.75£1 level staken=12 at SP
- 3.93Fair A/E n=12 · 3.31 incl. margin
- 99Highest OR
- 62dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 940 runs since Jan 2008 (120 horses).
Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 10.6% from 113.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 13 | 0 | 0% | −7.1 | — |
| Good to Firm | 140 | 13 | 9.3% | +2.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 290 | 17 | 5.9% | −1.2 | 2 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 123 | 11 | 8.9% | +1.8 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 235 | 15 | 6.4% | −0.7 | 0 from 7 |
| Heavy | 129 | 11 | 8.5% | +1.4 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 10 | 0 | 0% | −7.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −7.1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 195 | 16 | 8.2% | +1.1 | 0 from 5 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 350 | 20 | 5.7% | −1.4 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 273 | 19 | 7% | −0.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Over 3m | 113 | 12 | 10.6% | +3.5 | 2 from 2 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Warmaster (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Mood Swing (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Good | 2 | 2 | 100% | +42.75 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 8 | 1 | 13% | +33.00 |
| Class 5 | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.75 |
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hereford | 3 | 1 | 33% | +38.00 |
| Bangor-on-Dee | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Ffos Las | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.75 |
| Market Rasen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kempton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Towcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Haydock | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Over 3m | 2 | 2 | 100% | +42.75 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tom Siddall | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Sean Quinlan | 3 | 2 | 67% | +41.75 |
| Warren Marston | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Joe Tizzard | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Gerard Tumelty | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tony Evans | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 6 | 2 | 33% | +38.75 |
| 2008 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2007 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chase | 5 | 2 | 40% | +39.75 |
| Hurdle | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Illogical Hope won?
- Illogical Hope (IRE) won 2 of 12 archived starts between 2007 and 2009, a strike rate of 16.7%. Placed 2 times in total (16.7% of starts).
- Who trained Illogical Hope?
- Illogical Hope (IRE) was trained by Charlie Longsdon on the most recent run on record, at Ffos Las on 11 October 2009.
- Who is Illogical Hope's sire?
- Illogical Hope (IRE) is by Fourstars Allstar (USA) out of Queen Street (IRE), whose sire is King's Ride.
- What is Illogical Hope's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 93, from the run on 11 October 2009. The highest on record is 99.
- What is Illogical Hope's sire's record?
- Fourstars Allstar (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 940 runs since Jan 2008 (120 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 10.6% from 113.
- Who are Illogical Hope's siblings?
- Out of Queen Street (IRE), Illogical Hope (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.