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Horse profile

Karl Der Grosse (GER)

7yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2021) · Last trainer W P Mullins · Last owner Mrs S Ricci
by Jukebox Jury (IRE) out of Karsawina (GER) (Lando)
8 runs · 6 courses · from Aug 2018
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 10 Oct 2021 — 1,851 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2021 2 wins · Killarney & Tramore Last raced off OR 137
KTB Profile

Karl Der Grosse (GER) is 2 from 8. Hasn't won since Aug 2021. Each win came on a first visit to the course.

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 138 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Galway, 28 Oct 2018

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 138A · median 104.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft3138A91—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m291A71—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 8 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (4).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 143B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Killarney, 20 Aug 2021 Official rating 137 at the last run, 10 Oct 2021

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 143B · median 131.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft3143B134—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m2143B132.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 8 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 13.5% of 2,246 runs since Aug 2016 (256 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 10.3% from 155.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm601016.7%+3.2—
Good6308313.2%−0.31 from 2
Good to Soft4775210.9%−2.6—
Soft66210215.4%+1.91 from 6
Heavy2624115.6%+2.1—
Standard (AW)1551610.3%−3.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f200%−13.5—
6f – 7f6346.3%−7.2—
1m – 1m1f961010.4%−3.1—
1m2f – 1m4f1461812.3%−1.2—
1m5f – 2m6729514.1%+0.61 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f75310614.1%+0.60 from 3
2m5f – 3m4335813.4%−0.11 from 4
Over 3m811316%+2.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Aug 2016 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Karsawina (GER) (Lando)

6 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Kathinka (GER) (4 wins).

The wins came over 1m1½f–1m2½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Kathinka (GER)2941m1½f–1m2f—
King Of Song (FR)1011m2½f—
Kardinero (GER)10——
King Of Speed (FR)30——
Karsabruni (FR)40——
Khalet (GER)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 6 1 17% +3.50
Good 2 1 50% −0.47

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Galway 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 1 100% +8.50
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 1 100% +0.53

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 4 1 25% +5.50
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 1 1 100% +0.53

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paul Townend 4 1 25% +5.50
R Walsh 2 1 50% −0.47
Brian Hayes 1 0 0% −1.00
David Mullins 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 5 1 20% −3.47
Tongue tie 3 1 33% +6.50

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2021 2 1 50% +7.50
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2019 1 0 0% −1.00
2018 2 1 50% −0.47

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 4 1 25% +5.50
Hurdle 4 1 25% −2.47

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2021 · 2 runs
10 Oct 21+51d Limerick www.angloprinters.ie Rated Chase 2m3½f · Soft · 6 ran PU/6 — 11-6 137—— Brian Hayes 5/2
20 Aug 21+235d Killarney Owens McCarthy Loss Accessors Beginners Chase 2m7f · Yielding · 8 ran 1/8 12-0 —91A143B Paul Townend 17/2
2020 · 3 runs
28 Dec 20+151d Leopardstown Ballymaloe Foods Beginners Chase 2m5f · Yielding · 7 ran PU/7 — 12-0 ——— David Mullins 12/1
30 Jul 20+131d Galway Guinness Open Gate Brewery Beginners Chase 2m6½f · Soft · 12 ran 3/12 7½ 12-0 —51A122A Paul Townend 9/4
21 Mar 20+408d Thurles BetVictor Hurdle 2m6½f · Yielding To Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-7 ——— Paul Townend 11/1
2019 · 1 run
07 Feb 19+102d Thurles Horse & Jockey Rated Novice Hurdle 2m4f · Good · 7 ran PU/7 — 11-2 ——— Paul Townend 11/4
2018 · 2 runs
28 Oct 18+70d Galway Annesley Williams Rated Novice Hurdle 2m4½f · Yielding · 7 ran 3/7 ½ 10-11 —138A134A R Walsh 11/8F
19 Aug 18 Tramore Frank Gillane Memorial Maiden Hurdle 2m · Good · 13 ran 1/13 11-2 —118B129A R Walsh 8/15F

Quick answers

How many races has Karl Der Grosse won?
Karl Der Grosse (GER) won 2 of 8 archived starts between 2018 and 2021, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 3 times in total (37.5% of starts).
Who trained Karl Der Grosse?
Karl Der Grosse (GER) was trained by W P Mullins on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 10 October 2021.
Who is Karl Der Grosse's sire?
Karl Der Grosse (GER) is by Jukebox Jury (IRE) out of Karsawina (GER), whose sire is Lando.
What going does Karl Der Grosse prefer?
Karl Der Grosse (GER) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 6 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Karl Der Grosse's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 137, from the run on 10 October 2021. That is also the highest on record.
What is Karl Der Grosse's sire's record?
Jukebox Jury (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.5% of 2,246 runs since Aug 2016 (256 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 10.3% from 155.
Who are Karl Der Grosse's siblings?
Out of Karsawina (GER), Karl Der Grosse (GER) has 6 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Kathinka (GER) (4). The wins came over 1m1½f–1m2½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from August 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.