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Horse profile

Liffey Or Lee (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2008) · Last trainer Patrick Morris · Last owner George Halford
by Indian Lodge (IRE) out of Wild Liffey (USA) (Irish River)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Jul 2008
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Oct 2008 — 6,604 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2008 · 14th of 18
KTB Profile

Liffey Or Lee (IRE) is yet to win from 3 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 17 at Roscommon (Aug 2008).

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 125A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Roscommon, 5 Aug 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 125A · median 88
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)1———
Soft1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f288C85—
1m5f – 2m1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Indian Lodge (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 271 runs since Jan 2008 (27 horses).

Strongest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 10.9% from 110.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm5120%+12.3—
Good to Firm751114.7%+7—
Good4836.3%−1.4—
Good to Soft2528%+0.30 from 1
Soft2813.6%−4.10 from 1
Heavy600%−7.7—
Standard (AW)8433.6%−4.10 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f200%−7.7—
6f – 7f4948.2%+0.5—
1m – 1m1f1101210.9%+3.2—
1m2f – 1m4f5359.4%+1.7—
1m5f – 2m3000%−7.70 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f2200%−7.70 from 2
2m5f – 3m400%−7.7—
Over 3m100%−7.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Wild Liffey (USA) (Irish River)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Tay Bridge (IRE)130——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Dundalk (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr R P Quinn 1 0 0% −1.00
Ms N Carberry 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr A T Duff 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2008 · 3 runs
05 Oct 08+61d Dundalk (AW) Annagassan INH Flat Race 2m1f · Standard · 18 ran 14/18 4½ 11-3 82C Mr R P Quinn 10/1
05 Aug 08+26d Roscommon Tonlagee INH Flat Race 2m · Soft · 17 ran 3/17 2½ 11-9 125A Ms N Carberry 16/1
10 Jul 08 Fairyhouse Ratoath Inh Flat Race 2m2f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran 10/15 30 11-5 88C Mr A T Duff 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Liffey Or Lee won?
Liffey Or Lee (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2008. Placed 1 time in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Liffey Or Lee?
Liffey Or Lee (IRE) was trained by Patrick Morris on the most recent run on record, at Dundalk (AW) on 5 October 2008.
Who is Liffey Or Lee's sire?
Liffey Or Lee (IRE) is by Indian Lodge (IRE) out of Wild Liffey (USA), whose sire is Irish River.
What is Liffey Or Lee's sire's record?
Indian Lodge (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 271 runs since Jan 2008 (27 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 10.9% from 110.
Who are Liffey Or Lee's siblings?
Out of Wild Liffey (USA), Liffey Or Lee (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from July 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.