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Horse profile

Mean What You Say (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2011) · Last trainer Oliver McKiernan · Last owner Redgap Partnership
by Tamayaz (CAN) out of Strong Red (GB) (Strong Gale)
4 runs · 4 courses · from Oct 2011
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 24 Nov 2011 — 5,459 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2011 · 7th of 13 Last raced off OR 85
KTB Profile

Mean What You Say (IRE) is yet to win from 4 starts.

Based on 4 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 109C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Navan, 13 Nov 2011 Official rating 85 at the last run, 24 Nov 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 109C · median 94
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Heavy294C89.5—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m2109C101.5—
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 4 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Tamayaz (CAN)

Progeny in our archive have won 5.4% of 772 runs since Feb 2008 (80 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm400%−5.4—
Good to Firm9777.2%+1.8—
Good249114.4%−1—
Good to Soft10155%−0.4—
Soft176137.4%+20 from 2
Heavy11365.3%−0.10 from 2
Standard (AW)3200%−5.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f400%−5.4—
6f – 7f2300%−5.4—
1m – 1m1f1900%−5.4—
1m2f – 1m4f2300%−5.4—
1m5f – 2m282134.6%−0.80 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f247156.1%+0.70 from 1
2m5f – 3m153127.8%+2.40 from 1
Over 3m2129.5%+4.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Feb 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Strong Red (GB) (Strong Gale)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Kaiser Black (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m4f–3m½f; the highest grade won is Grade 3 (Kaiser Black (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Kaiser Black (IRE)1542m4f–3m½fGrade 3
Get Involved (IRE)2122m7f–3mClass 4
Highland Gale (IRE)20——
Lady Ashfield (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Patrick Mangan 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Leigh 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Ken Whelan 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2011 · 4 runs
24 Nov 11+11d Thurles Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase (0-109) 3m · Heavy · 13 ran 7/13 57 10-4 8585C Patrick Mangan 8/1
13 Nov 11+15d Navan Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Beginners Chase 2m · Yielding To Soft · 18 ran 14/18 23 11-12 —109C Andrew Leigh 33/1
29 Oct 11+17d Naas Weatherbys Ireland GSB Beginners Chase 2m · Heavy · 13 ran 12/13 6 11-12 —94C Tom Doyle 33/1
12 Oct 11 Punchestown Trinity College Dublin Horseracing Society Beginners Chase 2m4f · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran F/16 — 11-12 —— Ken Whelan 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Mean What You Say won?
Mean What You Say (IRE) has yet to win, from 4 archived starts in 2011.
Who trained Mean What You Say?
Mean What You Say (IRE) was trained by Oliver McKiernan on the most recent run on record, at Thurles on 24 November 2011.
Who is Mean What You Say's sire?
Mean What You Say (IRE) is by Tamayaz (CAN) out of Strong Red (GB), whose sire is Strong Gale.
What is Mean What You Say's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 24 November 2011. That is also the highest on record.
What is Mean What You Say's sire's record?
Tamayaz (CAN)'s progeny in our archive have won 5.4% of 772 runs since Feb 2008 (80 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Mean What You Say's siblings?
Out of Strong Red (GB), Mean What You Say (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Kaiser Black (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Grade 3 (Kaiser Black (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4f–3m½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from October 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.