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Messire Des Obeaux (FR)

11yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2023) · Last trainer Alan King · Last owner Simon Munir Isaac Souede
by Saddler Maker (IRE) out of Madame Lys (FR) (Sheyrann)
20 runs · 13 courses · from Oct 2015
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Jul 2023 — 1,221 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2023 · 9th of 10 6 wins · 5 courses Last raced off OR 137
KTB Profile

Messire Des Obeaux won six of 20 starts on turf, including the Grade 1 Betfred Challow Novices' Hurdle at Newbury in Dec 2016. All six wins came over 2m1f – 2m4f, four of them on good to soft. He won a Class 2 handicap chase at Warwick in Feb 2023 off an official rating of 136. Aged 11 at his last run in Jul 2023, he finished 9 of 10 in a Class 2 handicap chase at Cartmel off 137.

Based on 20 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 15lb off peak
Official rating137↓ 15lb off peak
137 128–152

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 91 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Wincanton, 15 Dec 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 14 figures · best 146B · median 117
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Soft9146B119—
Soft291A80.5—
Good2121B100.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f11146B117—
2m5f – 3m3121B85—

Of 16 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (1) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 16 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 134C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Warwick, 11 Feb 2023 Official rating 137 at the last run, 2 Jul 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 16 figures · best 144B · median 132.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Soft9144B138—
Good3134C131—
Soft2142B131—
Heavy2130B120—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f11144B134—
2m5f – 3m3141A126—
1m5f – 2m2130B129—

Of 18 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 18 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Saddler Maker (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 16.8% of 2,173 runs since Apr 2010 (181 horses).

Weakest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 11.3% from 222.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm12216.7%−0.1—
Good3195316.6%−0.21 from 3
Good to Soft3866617.1%+0.34 from 11
Soft94816217.1%+0.31 from 3
Heavy5058316.4%−0.40 from 3
Standard (AW)200%−16.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−16.8—
1m – 1m1f200%−16.8—
1m2f – 1m4f25312%−4.8—
1m5f – 2m3265918.1%+1.30 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f92716317.6%+0.86 from 14
2m5f – 3m67011617.3%+0.50 from 4
Over 3m2222511.3%−5.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2010 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Madame Lys (FR) (Sheyrann)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Bouvreuil (FR) (3 wins).

The wins came over 1m7f–2m3f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Bouvreuil (FR)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Bouvreuil (FR)2631m7f–2m3fClass 3
Eros (FR)230——
Mentor Des Obeaux (FR)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 11 4 36% +2.33
Soft 3 1 33% +1.50
Good 3 1 33% +6.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 8 2 25% +3.50
Class 1 8 3 38% +2.83
Class 3 2 1 50% +2.50

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wincanton 3 2 67% +4.75
Newbury 2 1 50% +2.33
Sandown 2 1 50% +1.25
Huntingdon 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheltenham 2 0 0% −2.00
Auteuil (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 1 100% +8.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 1 100% +1.50
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 14 6 43% +12.83
2m5f – 3m 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Daryl Jacob 15 6 40% +11.83
Romain Julliot 2 0 0% −2.00
Tom Cannon 1 0 0% −1.00
Noel Fehily 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Johnson 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 4 1 25% +5.00
2021 4 1 25% −0.75
2020 2 1 50% +2.50
2017 3 0 0% −3.00
2016 5 3 60% +5.08
2015 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 11 3 27% −0.92
Chase 9 3 33% +7.75

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 4 runs
02 Jul 23+99d Cartmel Oakmere Homes Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 9/10 5 11-12 13785B113A Daryl Jacob 22/1
25 Mar 23+42d Newbury Run For Your Money At BetVictor Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m4f · Soft · 9 ran 5/9 5½ 11-12 13870C120C Daryl Jacob 14/1
11 Feb 23+35d Warwick Virgin Bet Warwick Castle Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m4f · Good · 4 ran 1/4 10-10 13680C134C Daryl Jacob 8/1
07 Jan 23+385d Wincanton Virgin Bet Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 6 ran PU/6 — 11-11 140—— Tom Cannon 11/2
2021 · 4 runs
18 Dec 21+270d Ascot Howden Graduation Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 15 11-8 14756B126B Daryl Jacob 7/1
23 Mar 21+45d Wetherby Every Race Live On Racing TV Novices' Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 3m · Good To Soft · 4 ran PU/4 — 11-8 150—— Daryl Jacob 4/6F
06 Feb 21+28d Sandown Virgin Bet Scilly Isles Novices' Chase (Grade 1) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 2m4f · Heavy · 7 ran 4/7 18 11-4 152117C110C Daryl Jacob 4/1
09 Jan 21+25d Wincanton Paddy Power Dipper Novices' Chase (Grade 2) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 3 ran 1/3 11-0 147109C134C Daryl Jacob 9/4
2020 · 2 runs
15 Dec 20+313d Wincanton Like Racing TV On Facebook Novices' Limited Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 2m4f · Soft · 9 ran 1/9 11-8 13891A142B Daryl Jacob 7/2
06 Feb 20+1034d Huntingdon Betway Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m3½f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 4/10 21 11-8 140117A127A Daryl Jacob 5/1
2017 · 3 runs
08 Apr 17+24d Aintree Betway Mersey Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 2m4f · Good · 13 ran 3/13 3¼ 11-4 146121B131A Daryl Jacob 7/2
15 Mar 17+34d Cheltenham Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 3/15 3¾ 11-7 146121B141A Daryl Jacob 8/1
09 Feb 17+40d Huntingdon 188Bet Sidney Banks Memorial Novices' Hurdle (Listed) Class 1 · 2m3½f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 2/6 nk 11-12 146122A144B Daryl Jacob 10/11F
2016 · 5 runs
31 Dec 16+29d Newbury Betfred Challow Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 2m4½f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-7 143137A138A Daryl Jacob 10/3
02 Dec 16+23d Sandown Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) (Registered As The Winter Novices' Hurdle) Class 1 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-7 139146B141A Daryl Jacob 9/4
09 Nov 16+238d Bangor-on-Dee Bathgate Group Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m3½f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-5 128119A138B Daryl Jacob 6/4F
16 Mar 16+25d Cheltenham Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 2m½f · Good · 22 ran 7/22 3¼ 11-0 132—128A Noel Fehily 16/1
20 Feb 16+90d Haydock Ray Gilpin Victor Ludorum Juvenile Hurdle (Sponsored By Betfred) Class 2 · 1m7½f · Heavy · 4 ran 3/4 1½ 10-12 ——130B Richard Johnson 16/1
2015 · 2 runs
22 Nov 15+26d Auteuil (FR) Prix de Beaugency (Hurdle) (Conditions) (3yo) (Turf) 2m1½f · Heavy · 12 ran 6/12 2½ 10-8 ——— Romain Julliot 30/1
27 Oct 15 Auteuil (FR) Prix Emilius (Hurdle) (Conditions) (3yo Colts & Geldings unraced over hurdles & fences) (Turf) 2m2f · Very Soft · 11 ran 5/11 ¾ 10-6 ——— Romain Julliot 232/10

Quick answers

How many races has Messire Des Obeaux won?
Messire Des Obeaux (FR) won 6 of 20 archived starts between 2015 and 2023, a strike rate of 30%. Placed 9 times in total (45% of starts).
Who trained Messire Des Obeaux?
Messire Des Obeaux (FR) was trained by Alan King on the most recent run on record, at Cartmel on 2 July 2023.
Who is Messire Des Obeaux's sire?
Messire Des Obeaux (FR) is by Saddler Maker (IRE) out of Madame Lys (FR), whose sire is Sheyrann.
What going does Messire Des Obeaux prefer?
Messire Des Obeaux (FR) has the best record on good to soft going: 4 wins from 11 starts (36.4%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Messire Des Obeaux's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 137, from the run on 2 July 2023. The highest on record is 152.
What is Messire Des Obeaux's sire's record?
Saddler Maker (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 16.8% of 2,173 runs since Apr 2010 (181 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 11.3% from 222.
Who are Messire Des Obeaux's siblings?
Out of Madame Lys (FR), Messire Des Obeaux (FR) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Bouvreuil (FR) (3). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Bouvreuil (FR)). The wins came over 1m7f–2m3f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from October 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.