Needless To Say (IRE)
Needless To Say (IRE) is yet to win from 15 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 12 at Sligo (Aug 2007). Last raced off 85, 13lb below the career-high mark.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Needless To Say (IRE) has 3 produce in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Need For Gold (IRE) | 10 | 0 | — | — |
| Golden Gun (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Peachy Pie (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
- 0–15Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (13.3%)Placed
- −15.00£1 level staken=15 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=15 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 98Highest OR
- 26dBetween runs (median)longest 155 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 5% of 1,228 runs since Jan 2008 (139 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 11 | 0 | 0% | −5 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 149 | 6 | 4% | −1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 407 | 25 | 6.1% | +1.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 188 | 6 | 3.2% | −1.8 | 0 from 3 |
| Soft | 278 | 13 | 4.7% | −0.3 | 0 from 4 |
| Heavy | 190 | 12 | 6.3% | +1.3 | 0 from 4 |
| Standard (AW) | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 8 | 0 | 0% | −5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 402 | 19 | 4.7% | −0.3 | 0 from 9 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 442 | 24 | 5.4% | +0.4 | 0 from 6 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 321 | 18 | 5.6% | +0.6 | — |
| Over 3m | 55 | 1 | 1.8% | −3.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Oscar Glory (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 2m6f–3m½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Oscar Glory (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oscar Glory (IRE) | 33 | 4 | 2m6f–3m½f | Class 4 |
| Watch Yer Man (IRE) | 14 | 0 | — | — |
| Bust The Bank (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Heavy | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sligo | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Cork | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Gowran Park | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tipperary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ballinrobe | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Punchestown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kilbeggan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| D G Hogan | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Mr Thomas Coyle | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Martin Mooney | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Phillip Enright | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| B M Cash | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| John Cullen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr A T Duff | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2007 | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| 2006 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 22 Mar 08+155d | Cork | Charleville Handicap Hurdle (81-102) | 12/16 | 30 | 10-8 | 85 | 76C | D G Hogan | 14/1 |
| 2007 · 8 runs | |||||||||
| 19 Oct 07+16d | Gowran Park | Carlow (Mares) Handicap Hurdle (74-102) (Div 2) | 6/18 | shd | 10-13 | 86 | 96C | Phillip Enright | 14/1 |
| 03 Oct 07+10d | Sligo | Corner House Bar Ballymote Handicap Hurdle (74-109) | 7/13 | 23 | 10-6 | 86 | 77C | D G Hogan | 10/1 |
| 23 Sep 07+26d | Listowel | Low Low EBF (Mares) Handicap Hurdle (74-116) | 9/17 | 1½ | 10-7 | 92 | 76C | D G Hogan | 20/1 |
| 28 Aug 07+19d | Sligo | Londis Supermarkets Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 8/16 | hd | 11-5 | 93 | 86C | D G Hogan | 20/1 |
| 09 Aug 07+18d | Sligo | Leo McMorrow Memorial Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 2/12 | 5 | 11-5 | 93 | 91C | D G Hogan | 16/1 |
| 22 Jul 07+55d | Tipperary | O'Dwyer Tarmac Handicap Hurdle (74-109) | 11/16 | 6 | 10-13 | 95 | 89C | Martin Mooney | 16/1 |
| 28 May 07+30d | Ballinrobe | Irish Stallion Farms EBf Beginners Chase | 8/13 | 6 | 11-7 | — | 79C | Martin Mooney | 33/1 |
| 28 Apr 07+147d | Punchestown | Peggy Barry-Walsh Memorial Handicap Hurdle (81-109) | 11/21 | ½ | 10-12 | 98 | 91C | B M Cash | 33/1 |
| 2006 · 6 runs | |||||||||
| 02 Dec 06+20d | Fairyhouse | Kildownet Group Maiden Hurdle | 15/25 | 20 | 11-7 | — | 80C | John Cullen | 25/1 |
| 12 Nov 06+65d | Limerick (IRE) | Arramount Furniture (Q.R.) Maiden Hurdle | 9/17 | 8 | 11-0 | — | 74C | Mr Thomas Coyle | 16/1 |
| 08 Sep 06+54d | Kilbeggan | Kilbeggan Inh Flat Race | RR/13 | — | 11-2 | — | — | Mr Thomas Coyle | 8/1 |
| 16 Jul 06+136d | Sligo | Irish Stallion Farms EBF (Mares) Maiden Hurdle | 2/10 | 1 | 10-6 | — | 95C | Mr Thomas Coyle | 14/1 |
| 02 Mar 06+15d | Limerick | Rockview (q.r.) Mares Inh Flat Race | 7/10 | 25 | 10-9 | — | 60C | Mr A T Duff | 25/1 |
| 15 Feb 06 | Fairyhouse | Mares INH Flat Race | 10/15 | 2 | 11-2 | — | 96C | Mr Thomas Coyle | 14/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Needless To Say won?
- Needless To Say (IRE) has yet to win, from 15 archived starts between 2006 and 2008. Placed 2 times in total (13.3% of starts).
- Who trained Needless To Say?
- Needless To Say (IRE) was trained by Edward Cawley on the most recent run on record, at Cork on 22 March 2008.
- Who is Needless To Say's sire?
- Needless To Say (IRE) is by Needle Gun (IRE) out of Graf Spey (IRE), whose sire is Amazing Bust.
- What is Needless To Say's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 22 March 2008. The highest on record is 98.
- What is Needless To Say's sire's record?
- Needle Gun (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 5% of 1,228 runs since Jan 2008 (139 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Needless To Say's siblings?
- Out of Graf Spey (IRE), Needless To Say (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Oscar Glory (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Oscar Glory (IRE)). The wins came over 2m6f–3m½f. As at Nov 2026.
- Has Needless To Say produced winners?
- As a dam, Needless To Say (IRE) has 3 produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.