Skip to content
Horse profile

Never Again (IRE)

5yo mare (at last run, Apr 2017) · Last trainer John J Walsh · Last owner Mrs W M Fitzpatrick
by Jeremy (USA) out of Pipewell (IRE) (Lake Coniston)
23 runs · 10 courses · from Jun 2014
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 Apr 2017 — 3,476 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2017 · 10th of 16 2 wins · Limerick & Cork Last raced off OR 54
KTB Profile

Never Again (IRE) is 2 from 23. Hasn't won since Mar 2016. Last raced off 54, 65lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 23 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 65lb off peak

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Never Again (IRE) has 1 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins Guinness Lad (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m3½f; the highest grade won is Class 6 (Guinness Lad (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Guinness Lad (IRE)2411m3½fClass 6
Official rating54↓ 65lb off peak
54 47–119

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 63 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Limerick, 26 Dec 2016

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 78A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Limerick, 23 Apr 2016 Official rating 54 at the last flat run, 15 Apr 2017

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 129B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Limerick, 13 Mar 2016 Official rating 119 at the last jumps run, 26 Dec 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 17 figures · best 79A · median 53
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft578A72—
Good559A48—
Heavy479A70—
Good to Firm251B47—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f679A65.5—
6f – 7f653A45.5—
1m2f – 1m4f578A68—
Jumps 5 figures · best 129B · median 124
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Heavy4129B116.5—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m5129B124—

Of 23 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 22 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 6,724 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.5% from 664. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 16.3% from 147. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.8% from 743.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm10110%−1.2—
Good to Firm386379.6%−1.60 from 2
Good1,81120711.4%+0.20 from 5
Good to Soft1,04414513.9%+2.70 from 1
Soft1,95322011.3%+0.10 from 7
Heavy8569010.5%−0.72 from 8
Standard (AW)664507.5%−3.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f192199.9%−1.3—
6f – 7f743587.8%−3.40 from 6
1m – 1m1f653629.5%−1.71 from 6
1m2f – 1m4f6846910.1%−1.10 from 5
1m5f – 2m1,88924112.8%+1.61 from 6
2m1f – 2m4f1,68021112.6%+1.4—
2m5f – 3m736669%−2.2—
Over 3m1472416.3%+5.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Pipewell (IRE) (Lake Coniston)

7 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Piper General (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 1m4f–2m2f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (One Cool Boy (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Piper General (IRE)1431m4f–1m6fClass 5
Pied Piper Man (IRE)3222m–2m2f—
One Cool Boy (IRE)2812mClass 4
Out Of Sight (IRE)50——
Pipers Choice (IRE)110——
Comanchie Creek (IRE)110——
Miss Kin (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 8 2 25% +34.00
Soft 7 0 0% −7.00
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Limerick 4 1 25% +9.00
Listowel 4 0 0% −4.00
Gowran Park 3 0 0% −3.00
Cork 2 1 50% +27.00
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Tipperary 2 0 0% −2.00
Galway 2 0 0% −2.00
Killarney 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 6 1 17% +7.00
1m – 1m1f 6 1 17% +23.00
6f – 7f 6 0 0% −6.00
1m2f – 1m4f 5 0 0% −5.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Chris Hayes 6 0 0% −6.00
Rory Cleary 5 1 20% +24.00
A P Heskin 4 1 25% +9.00
Ronan Whelan 2 0 0% −2.00
Donnacha O'Brien 2 0 0% −2.00
Conor Hoban 1 0 0% −1.00
Brian O'Connell 1 0 0% −1.00
Frank Hayes 1 0 0% −1.00
Colm O'Donoghue 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 1 0 0% −1.00
2016 7 1 14% +6.00
2015 11 1 9% +18.00
2014 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 17 1 6% +12.00
Hurdle 6 1 17% +7.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
15 Apr 17+110d Cork Buy Online At Corkracecourse.ie Handicap (45-75) 10f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 10/16 1½ 8-8 5491C53A Conor Hoban 16/1
26 Dec 16+247d Limerick O'kelly Brothers Demolition Mares Handicap Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 8 ran 7/8 2¼ 11-8 11963A104A Brian O'Connell 5/1
23 Apr 16+14d Limerick Best Odds Guaranteed At 188Bet Handicap (47-65) 11.5f · Yielding · 12 ran 4/12 hd 9-6 57—78A Ronan Whelan 4/1
09 Apr 16+27d Gowran Park Family Fun Day June 19th Apprentice Handicap (50-75) 12f · Heavy · 7 ran 3/7 1¾ 8-12 57—68A Donnacha O'Brien 10/3
13 Mar 16+29d Limerick Limerick Racecourse Vets Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 5 ran 1/5 10-7 113—129B A P Heskin 12/1
13 Feb 16+17d Gowran Park Sea Moon & Shantou At Burgage Stud Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 15 ran 3/15 4¾ 11-0 ——105A A P Heskin 13/8
27 Jan 16+13d Thurles Leugh Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 10 ran 3/10 nk 11-0 ——128A A P Heskin 11/2
14 Jan 16+67d Thurles www.thurlesraces.ie Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 16 ran 2/16 ¾ 10-3 ——124A A P Heskin 25/1
08 Nov 15+19d Limerick (IRE) Irish National Stud 3-Y-O Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 9-12 ——— Frank Hayes 16/1
20 Oct 15+34d Gowran Park www.gowranpark.ie Handicap (47-70) 8f · Good · 16 ran 8/16 ¾ 9-4 60—59A Chris Hayes 8/1
16 Sep 15+20d Listowel Listowel Arms Handicap 9f · Heavy · 11 ran 3/11 4½ 8-9 60—72A Rory Cleary 10/1
27 Aug 15+31d Tipperary Follow TipperaryRaces On Twitter Apprentice Handicap 7.5f · Yielding To Soft · 13 ran 11/13 nk 9-4 62—53A Donnacha O'Brien 9/1
27 Jul 15+13d Galway Claytonhotelgalway.ie Handicap (50-80) 7f · Yielding · 14 ran 8/14 3 8-13 65—48A Rory Cleary 22/1
14 Jul 15+23d Killarney Ross Golf Course Handicap (Div 1) 11f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 5/15 1¼ 9-9 65—75A Chris Hayes 16/1
21 Jun 15+21d Gowran Park (IRE) Live Music Sunday Sept 20th Handicap 9.5f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 5/6 4 9-1 66—51B Rory Cleary 12/1
31 May 15+19d Listowel Follow Listowel Races On Facebook Handicap (60-90) 8f · Heavy · 8 ran 7/8 1 8-4 70—37C Chris Hayes 4/1
12 May 15+17d Killarney Bet Online At thetote.com Handicap 8.5f · Soft · 9 ran 3/9 ½ 8-4 62—72A Chris Hayes 12/1
25 Apr 15+21d Limerick Irishinjuredjockeys.com Handicap (47-70) 11.5f · Good · 15 ran 10/15 nk 9-4 62—48C Rory Cleary 9/1
04 Apr 15+200d Cork Follow Us On Twitter Handicap 8.5f · Heavy · 10 ran 1/10 8-4 47—79A Rory Cleary 28/1
16 Sep 14+19d Listowel Jet O'carroll Memorial E.B.F. Maiden 7f · Good · 7 ran 7/7 9 9-0 ——40C Ronan Whelan 100/1
28 Aug 14+30d Tipperary Camas Park Stud E.B.F. Maiden 7.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 9/9 ¾ 9-0 ——43C Chris Hayes 66/1
29 Jul 14+58d Galway Topaz E.B.F. Fillies Maiden 7f · Good · 12 ran 9/12 4 9-0 ——50C Colm O'Donoghue 100/1
01 Jun 14 Listowel Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Maiden 7f · Good · 5 ran 5/5 4½ 9-0 ——26B Chris Hayes 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Never Again (IRE) won?
Never Again (IRE) won 2 of 23 archived starts between 2014 and 2017, a strike rate of 8.7%. Placed 7 times in total (30.4% of starts).
Who trained Never Again (IRE)?
Never Again (IRE) was trained by John J Walsh on the most recent run on record, at Cork on 15 April 2017.
Who is Never Again (IRE)'s sire?
Never Again (IRE) is by Jeremy (USA) out of Pipewell (IRE), whose sire is Lake Coniston.
What going does Never Again (IRE) prefer?
Never Again (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 8 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Never Again (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 54, from the run on 15 April 2017. The highest on record is 119.
What is Never Again (IRE)'s sire's record?
Jeremy (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 6,724 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.5% from 664. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 16.3% from 147. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.8% from 743.
Who are Never Again (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Pipewell (IRE), Never Again (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Piper General (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (One Cool Boy (IRE)). The wins came over 1m4f–2m2f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Never Again (IRE) produced winners?
As a dam, Never Again (IRE) has 1 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Guinness Lad (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 6 (Guinness Lad (IRE)). The wins came over 1m3½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.