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Horse profile

Never Know (IRE)

2yo colt (at last run, Jul 2024) · Last trainer Stuart Williams · Last owner Mohammad Bin Owaimar
by No Nay Never (USA) out of Knock Stars (IRE) (Soviet Star)
3 runs · 3 courses · from Jun 2024
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 18 Jul 2024 — 825 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2024 · 9th of 10 New yard
KTB Profile

Never Know is a colt by No Nay Never out of a Soviet Star mare who ran three times between Jun 2024 and Jul 2024 without placing. His best effort came when fourth of 10 at Chelmsford City over 6f-7f on standard going in Jun 2024. He finished ninth of 10 at Epsom Downs in a Class 4 maiden in Jul 2024 on his first start for Stuart Williams.

Based on 3 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 69 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Chelmsford City (AW), 20 Jun 2024

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 69B · median 65
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)269B67—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f269B59.5—
Under 6f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 68A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chelmsford City (AW), 20 Jun 2024

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 68A · median 57
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)268A62.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f268A57.5—
Under 6f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm16531.3%+19.2—
Good to Firm92712213.2%+1.1—
Good1,48918112.2%+0.10 from 1
Good to Soft612559%−3.1—
Soft84310912.9%+0.8—
Heavy2763613%+0.9—
Standard (AW)2,14725311.8%−0.30 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f91012213.4%+1.30 from 1
6f – 7f3,37443713%+0.90 from 2
1m – 1m1f1,17712911%−1.1—
1m2f – 1m4f582549.3%−2.8—
1m5f – 2m185147.6%−4.5—
2m1f – 2m4f7756.5%−5.6—
2m5f – 3m500%−12.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Knock Stars (IRE) (Soviet Star)

5 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Pop Star (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 5f–7f; the highest grade won is Listed (Royal Aclaim (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Pop Star (IRE)3655f–6fClass 5
Royal Aclaim (IRE)835fListed
Sioux Warrior (IRE)2925½f–7fClass 6
Terrier Spirit (IRE)415fClass 5
Knock Knock (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Callum Shepherd 1 0 0% −1.00
Alistair Rawlinson 1 0 0% −1.00
Neil Callan 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
18 Jul 24+28d Epsom Downs Betfred Play Fred's 5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 7f · Good · 10 ran 9/10 7 9-7 50C47C Callum Shepherd 40/1
20 Jun 24+16d Chelmsford City (AW) Art Deco 1er Cru EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 ½ 9-7 69B68A Alistair Rawlinson 12/1
04 Jun 24 Wolverhampton (AW) Get Raceday Ready EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 5f · Standard · 11 ran 8/11 ¾ 9-7 65A57A Neil Callan 9/2

Quick answers

How many races has Never Know (IRE) won?
Never Know (IRE) has yet to win, from 3 archived starts in 2024.
Who trained Never Know (IRE)?
Never Know (IRE) was trained by Stuart Williams on the most recent run on record, at Epsom Downs on 18 July 2024.
Who is Never Know (IRE)'s sire?
Never Know (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Knock Stars (IRE), whose sire is Soviet Star.
What is Never Know (IRE)'s sire's record?
No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
Who are Never Know (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Knock Stars (IRE), Never Know (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Pop Star (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Listed (Royal Aclaim (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.