Never Say Never (FR)
Never Say Never (FR) is 2 from 24. Hasn't won since Sep 2015.
- 2–24Wins / Runs
- 8.3%Strike rate
- 5 (20.8%)Placed
- −1.60£1 level staken=24 at SP
- 0.96Fair A/E n=24 · 0.79 incl. margin
- 77dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 239 runs since Jan 2008 (34 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −9.2 | — |
| Good | 49 | 3 | 6.1% | −3.1 | 0 from 7 |
| Good to Soft | 32 | 1 | 3.1% | −6.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Soft | 65 | 8 | 12.3% | +3.1 | 2 from 7 |
| Heavy | 31 | 4 | 12.9% | +3.7 | 0 from 4 |
| Standard (AW) | 58 | 6 | 10.3% | +1.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | +6.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 70 | 9 | 12.9% | +3.7 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 62 | 5 | 8.1% | −1.1 | 2 from 5 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 58 | 0 | 0% | −9.2 | 0 from 17 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 16 | 4 | 25% | +15.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 17 | 2 | 11.8% | +2.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −9.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Avarchie (FR) (2 wins).
The wins came over 7f–2m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Avarchie (FR)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Avarchie (FR) | 7 | 2 | 1m7½f–2m | Class 4 |
| Cassiopee (FR) | 15 | 2 | 7f–7½f | — |
| Tipsy (FR) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Cazaline (FR) | 13 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 7 | 2 | 29% | +15.40 |
| Good | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Heavy | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maisons-Laffitte (FR) | 6 | 2 | 33% | +16.40 |
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Chantilly (FR) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Deauville (FR) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Longchamp (FR) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Dieppe (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 17 | 0 | 0% | −17.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 5 | 2 | 40% | +17.40 |
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stephane Pasquier | 5 | 2 | 40% | +17.40 |
| Antoine Hamelin | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Filip Minarik | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Nathan Kasztelan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Yoann Rousset | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Eddy Hardouin | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Annaelle Didon-Yahlali | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Alexis Pouchin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Adrien Moreau | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Anthony Crastus | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pauline Prod'homme | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Blinkers | 3 | 2 | 67% | +19.40 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2019 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2018 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2017 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2016 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2015 | 6 | 2 | 33% | +16.40 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Never Say Never won?
- Never Say Never (FR) won 2 of 24 archived starts between 2015 and 2020, a strike rate of 8.3%. Placed 5 times in total (20.8% of starts).
- Who trained Never Say Never?
- Never Say Never (FR) was trained by C Restout on the most recent run on record, at Chantilly (FR) on 3 June 2020.
- Who is Never Say Never's sire?
- Never Say Never (FR) is by Never On Sunday (FR) out of Teatime (FR), whose sire is Loup Solitaire.
- What going does Never Say Never prefer?
- Never Say Never (FR) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 7 starts (28.6%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Never Say Never's sire's record?
- Never On Sunday (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 239 runs since Jan 2008 (34 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Never Say Never's siblings?
- Out of Teatime (FR), Never Say Never (FR) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Avarchie (FR) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Avarchie (FR)). The wins came over 7f–2m. As at Oct 2026.