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Horse profile

Never The Same (IRE)

3yo filly · Trainer Joseph Patrick O'Brien · Owner Philip Antonacci Mrs Paul Shanahan Mrs John Magnier
4 runs · 4 courses · from Nov 2025
As at 18 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Won at Naas (IRE) Ran 26 days ago · 6th of 12 Last raced off OR 75
KTB Profile

Never The Same (IRE) is 1 from 4.

Based on 4 archived runs · run-style from 1 commented run · updated 18 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 94 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Fairyhouse (IRE), 21 Sep 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 99C · median 87.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good299C96.52 · 99 / 96.5
Good to Firm1——1 · —
Standard (AW)1——1 · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
6f – 7f394A813 · 94 / 81
1m – 1m1f1——1 · —

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Naas (IRE), 3 Aug 2026 Official rating 75 at the last run, 21 Sep 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 4 figures · best 88A · median 71
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Good288A792 · 88 / 79
Good to Firm1——1 · —
Standard (AW)1——1 · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
6f – 7f372A703 · 72 / 70
1m – 1m1f1——1 · —

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 4 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,297 runs since Jan 2008 (703 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 609. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 184.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm16531.3%+19.2—
Good to Firm92712213.2%+1.10 from 1
Good1,48718112.2%+0.11 from 2
Good to Soft609559%−3.1—
Soft84010913%+0.9—
Heavy2763613%+0.9—
Standard (AW)2,14225211.8%−0.30 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f91012213.4%+1.3—
6f – 7f3,36643613%+0.90 from 3
1m – 1m1f1,17312911%−1.11 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f582549.3%−2.8—
1m5f – 2m184147.6%−4.5—
2m1f – 2m4f7756.5%−5.6—
2m5f – 3m500%−12.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 17 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 2 1 50% +2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Fairyhouse (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas (IRE) 1 1 100% +3.00
Curragh (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Dundalk (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 1 1 100% +3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
J M Sheridan 2 0 0% −2.00
Shay Wallace 1 0 0% −1.00
Dylan Browne McMonagle 1 1 100% +3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 3 1 33% +1.00
2025 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
21 Sep 26+49d Fairyhouse (IRE) Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Handicap 7f · Good · 12 ran Sent clear from the outset - urged on approaching 2f out - lost the advantage inside the final 200 yards - lost more ground in the closing stages to finish sixth 6/12 nk 8-8 7594A70A Shay Wallace 9/1
03 Aug 26+16d Naas (IRE) Hurling For Cancer On August 24th Fillies Maiden 8f · Good · 17 ran Shared front spot before going clear at halfway - challenged 2f out - driven approaching final furlong and brushed the rail 100 yards out - stayed on strongly to score 1/17 9-3 —99C88A Dylan Browne McMonagle 3/1
18 Jul 26+232d Curragh (IRE) Hailey Equine Irish EBF Fillies Maiden 7f · Good To Firm · 11 ran settled in the pack down the inside - 8th at halfway - driven into 7th when moved left over 1f out - back to 6th unable to get on terms 1f out - soon under continued pressure and stayed on one gait to finish 4th late on 4/11 1¼ 9-3 —81A72A J M Sheridan 22/1
28 Nov 25 Dundalk (AW) Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Maiden 6f · Standard · 13 ran Held up towards the back - driven into 8th spot 2f out - unable to threaten and finished well held 8/13 ½ 9-2 —81B64A J M Sheridan 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Never The Same (IRE) won?
Never The Same (IRE) won 1 of 4 archived starts between 2025 and 2026, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 1 time in total (25% of starts).
Who trains Never The Same (IRE)?
Never The Same (IRE) is trained by Joseph Patrick O'Brien, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 21 September 2026.
Who is Never The Same (IRE)'s sire?
Never The Same (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Russian River (IRE), whose sire is Dandy Man.
What is Never The Same (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 75, from the run on 21 September 2026. That is also the highest on record.
What is Never The Same (IRE)'s sire's record?
No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,297 runs since Jan 2008 (703 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 609. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 184.

Record shown from November 2025. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.