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Horse profile

Open Water (FR)

4yo colt (at last run, Oct 2013) · Last trainer Andrew Balding · Last owner Thurloe Thoroughbreds Xxvi
by Orpen (USA) out of So Stream (ITY) (Elmaamul)
8 runs · 7 courses · from Sep 2011
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Oct 2013 — 4,753 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2013 · 4th of 13 Won at Sandown Last raced off OR 83
KTB Profile

Open Water (FR) is 1 from 8, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Sep 2011. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 4 on softer).

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster Win at Class 5
Official rating83↓ 3lb off peak
83 79–86

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Nottingham, 16 Oct 2013 Official rating 83 at the last run, 16 Oct 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 8 figures · best 97A · median 86.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Heavy288A84.5—
Good to Firm297A88—
Good291A88—
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f697A84.5—
1m – 1m1f291A88—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Orpen (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9% of 4,037 runs since Jan 2008 (381 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 4.4% from 113.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3912.6%−6.4—
Good to Firm438409.1%+0.10 from 2
Good891758.4%−0.61 from 2
Good to Soft501367.2%−1.80 from 1
Soft7197410.3%+1.30 from 1
Heavy285289.8%+0.80 from 2
Standard (AW)1,1601099.4%+0.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2422711.2%+2.2—
6f – 7f1,31313510.3%+1.3—
1m – 1m1f1,013939.2%+0.21 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f543356.4%−2.60 from 6
1m5f – 2m511499.6%+0.6—
2m1f – 2m4f286196.6%−2.4—
2m5f – 3m11354.4%−4.6—
Over 3m1616.3%−2.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
So Stream (ITY) (Elmaamul)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Streaming By (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 1 50% +19.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 5 1 1 100% +20.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newmarket 2 0 0% −2.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 1 100% +20.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 6 0 0% −6.00
1m – 1m1f 2 1 50% +19.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jimmy Fortune 4 1 25% +17.00
David Probert 3 0 0% −3.00
Hayley Turner 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 3 0 0% −3.00
2012 3 0 0% −3.00
2011 2 1 50% +19.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
16 Oct 13+14d Nottingham Fortinet Gold Partner Handicap Class 3 · 10f · Heavy · 13 ran 4/13 4½ 9-0 8388A David Probert 15/2
02 Oct 13+149d Salisbury Weatherbys Bank Foreign Exchange Handicap Class 2 · 10f · Heavy · 7 ran 2/7 6 8-7 8381A David Probert 7/1
06 May 13+319d Windsor Cornetto Handicap Class 4 · 10f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 5/7 4½ 9-7 8579A Jimmy Fortune 7/4F
21 Jun 12+19d Ascot King George V Stakes (Handicap) Class 2 · 12f · Good To Soft · 18 ran 18/18 6 8-2 8662C David Probert 16/1
02 Jun 12+27d Epsom Downs Diamond Jubilee Handicap (Sponsored By Investec) Class 2 · 10f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 4/11 1¼ 8-7 8697A Hayley Turner 4/1
06 May 12+200d Newmarket Al Rayan Handicap Class 2 · 10f · Soft · 10 ran 3/10 1½ 8-10 8293A Jimmy Fortune 7/1
19 Oct 11+35d Newmarket Thai Street Cafe Nursery Class 4 · 9f · Good · 12 ran 2/12 3¼ 9-6 7991A Jimmy Fortune 8/1
14 Sep 11 Sandown Bam/british Stallion Studs E.b.f. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8f · Good · 11 ran 1/11 9-3 —85A Jimmy Fortune 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Open Water (FR) won?
Open Water (FR) won 1 of 8 archived starts between 2011 and 2013, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 4 times in total (50% of starts).
Who trained Open Water (FR)?
Open Water (FR) was trained by Andrew Balding on the most recent run on record, at Nottingham on 16 October 2013.
Who is Open Water (FR)'s sire?
Open Water (FR) is by Orpen (USA) out of So Stream (ITY), whose sire is Elmaamul.
What is Open Water (FR)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 83, from the run on 16 October 2013. The highest on record is 86.
What is Open Water (FR)'s sire's record?
Orpen (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9% of 4,037 runs since Jan 2008 (381 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 4.4% from 113.
Who are Open Water (FR)'s siblings?
Out of So Stream (ITY), Open Water (FR) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.