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Horse profile

Optimistic (GB)

4yo gelding · Trainer Derek Shaw · Owner Mrs Lyndsey Shaw
by Havana Grey (GB) out of Nabat Sultan (GB) (Invincible Spirit)
6 runs · 3 courses · from Oct 2025
As at 18 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Off 207 days · 10th of 11 Last raced off OR 47
KTB Profile

Optimistic is a maiden who has run six times without a win and placed twice. His best effort came when second of 10 at Wolverhampton in Mar 2026. The gelding, by Havana Grey out of a daughter of Invincible Spirit, has raced five times on the all-weather and once on turf. He finished 10th of 11 at Wolverhampton in Mar 2026.

Based on 6 archived runs · run-style from 2 commented runs · updated 18 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 98 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Southwell (AW), 24 Feb 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 98A · median 75
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)598A795 · 98 / 79
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
6f – 7f597A714 · 97 / 75
Under 6f1——1 · —

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 73A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Southwell (AW), 24 Feb 2026 Official rating 47 at the last run, 24 Mar 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 73A · median 47
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)573A485 · 73 / 48
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 18 Oct 2025
6f – 7f568A464 · 68 / 47
Under 6f1——1 · —

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Havana Grey (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,524 runs since Jan 2008 (415 horses).

Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 16.3% from 104.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm22627.3%+14—
Good to Firm92414415.6%+2.3—
Good1,10214813.4%+0.10 from 1
Good to Soft4114410.7%−2.6—
Soft4235412.8%−0.5—
Heavy8878%−5.3—
Standard (AW)1,55420012.9%−0.40 from 5
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1,36121715.9%+2.60 from 1
6f – 7f2,64332712.4%−0.90 from 5
1m – 1m1f4054210.4%−2.9—
1m2f – 1m4f1041716.3%+3—
1m5f – 2m800%−13.3—
2m1f – 2m4f300%−13.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 17 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Nabat Sultan (GB) (Invincible Spirit)

3 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Farhhsical (GB)70——
Mr Funky Monkey (GB)120——
Purely Prosecco (GB)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wolverhampton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Southwell (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 5 0 0% −5.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Faye McManoman 2 0 0% −2.00
Ben Ffrench Davis 2 0 0% −2.00
Darragh Keenan 1 0 0% −1.00
Jonny Peate 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Visor 3 0 0% −3.00
Hood 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 3 0 0% −3.00
2025 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
24 Mar 26+22d Wolverhampton (AW) Midnite, Building The Future Of Betting Classified Stakes (Div 1) Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 11 ran Held up handy in the pack - urged forward with over 2f left - dropped away from the last furlong marker - finished well held in 10th 10/11 ¾ 9-9 4771A48A Darragh Keenan 11/2
02 Mar 26+6d Wolverhampton (AW) Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div 1) Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran Knocked at the break - travelled close to the pace - driven with two furlongs left - urged again a furlong out - finished strongly but denied by a short head 2/10 hd 9-9 4997A68A Faye McManoman 13/2
24 Feb 26+73d Southwell (AW) Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 8 ran Settled in behind early - urged forward and made ground over a furlong out - kept going to finish third 3/8 ¾ 9-9 4998A73A Faye McManoman 28/1
13 Dec 25+46d Wolverhampton (AW) Bet 10 Get 40 With BetMGM Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 5 ran Stumbled start and fired up early - settled third briefly before fading back through the field approaching halfway after fighting the bridle - toward the rear from there - no extra response 3f out and faded away for fifth 5/5 7 9-2 —66C41B Ben Ffrench Davis 200/1
28 Oct 25+14d Wolverhampton (AW) Create Your Bet Builders At Midnite Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 5 ran Sluggish start - held towards back and driven up - dropped away over final stretch before nudging into 4th close home 4/5 5 9-2 —79C46B Ben Ffrench Davis 250/1
14 Oct 25 Leicester British EBF Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 7f · Good · 9 ran Held a forward spot early - dropped back before halfway - found little from 3f out - well beaten through the final furlong 9/9 17 9-7 —51C40C Jonny Peate 250/1

Quick answers

How many races has Optimistic (GB) won?
Optimistic (GB) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2025 and 2026. Placed 2 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trains Optimistic (GB)?
Optimistic (GB) is trained by Derek Shaw, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 24 March 2026.
Who is Optimistic (GB)'s sire?
Optimistic (GB) is by Havana Grey (GB) out of Nabat Sultan (GB), whose sire is Invincible Spirit.
What is Optimistic (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 47, from the run on 24 March 2026. The highest on record is 49.
What is Optimistic (GB)'s sire's record?
Havana Grey (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,524 runs since Jan 2008 (415 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 16.3% from 104.
Who are Optimistic (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Nabat Sultan (GB), Optimistic (GB) has 3 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2025. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.