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Horse profile

Pierre Grosse (GB)

3yo gelding · Trainer Mrs J. Harrington · Owner Mrs J Barrett Richard Galway
by Palace Pier (GB) out of Waldfabel (GB) (Frankel)
12 runs · 9 courses · from Aug 2025
As at 25 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Last run 15 Oct 2026 · 11th of 12 Last raced off OR 83
KTB Profile

Pierre Grosse is a gelding by Palace Pier out of a Frankel mare who has failed to win in 12 starts on turf but has placed five times. All his racing has been at trips from 6f to 2m with prominent tactics his usual style. His best effort came when second of five at Thurles in Oct 2026. He finished 11 of 12 at the Curragh the following month off an official rating of 83.

Based on 12 archived runs · run-style from 12 commented runs since Aug 2025 · updated 25 Oct 2026
Official rating83↓ 2lb off peak
83 79–85

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 115 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Curragh (IRE), 19 Jul 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 12 figures · best 115A · median 72
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
Soft4114A573 runs · 114 / 70
Good4105C73.52 runs · 105 / 91
Good to Firm2115A100.52 runs · 115 / 100.5
Heavy1——1 run · —
Good to Soft1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f7115A777 runs · 115 / 77
1m5f – 2m2114A902 runs · 114 / 90
6f – 7f270C57—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 23 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 84B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Thurles (IRE), 8 Oct 2026 Official rating 83 at the last run, 15 Oct 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 12 figures · best 84B · median 75
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
Soft484B783 runs · 84 / 74
Good481B71.52 runs · 81 / 73
Good to Firm284B80.52 runs · 84 / 80.5
Heavy1——1 run · —
Good to Soft1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f784B777 runs · 84 / 77
1m5f – 2m274A64.52 runs · 74 / 64.5
6f – 7f282A75.5—
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 23 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 12 analysed runs since Aug 2025

  • Prominent 5 (42%) · 0 wins
  • Held up 5 (42%) · 0 wins
  • Led 1 (8%) · 0 wins
  • Mid-division 1 (8%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Palace Pier (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.4% of 590 runs since Jan 2008 (106 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm1341914.2%+2.80 from 2
Good1561710.9%−0.50 from 4
Good to Soft6146.6%−4.80 from 1
Soft57610.5%−0.90 from 4
Heavy1600%−11.40 from 1
Standard (AW)1662112.7%+1.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f13430.8%+19.4—
6f – 7f259259.7%−1.70 from 2
1m – 1m1f1761910.8%−0.60 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f1291814%+2.60 from 7
1m5f – 2m1317.7%−3.70 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 25 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Waldfabel (GB) (Frankel)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Your Lordship (GB)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Curragh (IRE) 2 0 0% −2.00
Naas 2 0 0% −2.00
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 7 0 0% −7.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Keithen Kennedy 7 0 0% −7.00
Shane Foley 4 0 0% −4.00
L J Ferraris 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 10 0 0% −10.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 9 0 0% −9.00
2025 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2026 · 9 runs
15 Oct 26+7d Curragh (IRE) DNG People & Property Maiden 12f · Yielding To Soft · 12 ran prominent early - under pressure 4f out then faded quickly - detached at the finish in 11th 11/12 58 9-8 83-12C53C Keithen Kennedy 5/1
08 Oct 26+33d Thurles (IRE) Killinan Handicap 12.5f · Yielding · 5 ran Made all the running - pushed along and passed 2f out - battled on gamely - outpaced near the finish to take 2nd 2/5 1¼ 9-3 8370C84B Keithen Kennedy 10/1
05 Sep 26+28d Haydock Best Odds On The Betfair Exchange Handicap Stakes (GBBPlus Race) Class 2 · 14f · Heavy · 8 ran Held up towards the back - urged forward 3f out - unable to go with rivals from 2f out - slipped to the back a furlong out - allowed to finish in own time well held 8/8 14 8-6 8466C55C Keithen Kennedy 10/1
08 Aug 26+20d Ascot Dubai Duty Free Shergar Cup Classic (Class 3 Handicap) (gbbplus Race) Class 3 · 12f · Good To Firm · 10 ran Held up at back - urged to chase 2f out - stayed on without threatening leaders - finished 8th 8/10 hd 9-9 8586B77A L J Ferraris 13/2
19 Jul 26+29d Curragh (IRE) Final Furlong Podcast With 1xBet.ie Irish EBF Maiden 12f · Good To Firm · 6 ran handy early - eased back into the pack soon after - 3rd at halfway - up to 2nd 2 1/2f out - went past the pace-setter for a slender advantage 1f out - overtaken near the line but battled on to finish 2nd beaten half a length 2/6 ½ 9-8 83115A84B Shane Foley 7/2
20 Jun 26+15d Down Royal BOYLE Sports Ulster Derby (Premier Handicap) 13f · Soft · 9 ran Held up towards the back of the pack - squeezed for space with two furlongs left then pushed along - moved strongly into 3rd approaching the last - hit the front early in the straight but caught and unable to find more near the line 2/9 ¾ 8-2 79114A74A Keithen Kennedy 10/1
05 Jun 26+27d Fairyhouse Bobbyjo Restaurant At Fairyhouse Maiden 10f · Good · 13 ran Sat just behind the front group early - 5th at halfway - asked for effort with 2f left - stayed on late to move into 4th close home 4/13 ½ 9-3 80105C65A Keithen Kennedy 5/2
09 May 26+27d Naas TRM Race, Replace, Rehydrate Rated Race 10.5f · Good · 6 ran Sat close to front early - still second at halfway - urged into effort entering the straight but couldn't close on winner from 1f out - held on for second without gaining further ground 2/6 4½ 9-3 8177A81B Shane Foley 3/1
12 Apr 26+182d Leopardstown Tony Harmon Services Handicap 10f · Good To Yielding · 8 ran Held up towards the back - urged forward into 6th entering the straight - moved into 3rd with a furlong and a half left - held position for third at the line 3/8 1¼ 8-11 8074A76A Keithen Kennedy 9/1
2025 · 3 runs
12 Oct 25+54d Naas Irish EBF Auction Series Race Final 7f · Yielding · 11 ran Held up in the pack - urged forward before halfway and again 2f out - stayed on same gait late to finish sixth 6/11 1¾ 9-9 —44A82A Keithen Kennedy 80/1
19 Aug 25+12d Roscommon Irish EBF Auction Series Race 7.5f · Good · 5 ran Settled in 4th early - urged forward 3f out moving into 3rd then pressed for effort 2f out - unable to reel in the leaders and stayed on at one gait through the final furlong to finish third 3/5 10 9-9 —70C69B Shane Foley 11/4
07 Aug 25 Leopardstown Irish Stallion Farms EBF (C & G) Maiden 8f · Good · 9 ran Held up early - improving into 6th turning for home but hampered inside final 2f - hampered once more with a furlong left - stayed on late to take 4th without threatening the front 4/9 ½ 9-5 —69A74A Shane Foley 18/1

Quick answers

How many races has Pierre Grosse won?
Pierre Grosse (GB) has yet to win, from 12 archived starts between 2025 and 2026. Placed 5 times in total (41.7% of starts).
Who trains Pierre Grosse?
Pierre Grosse (GB) is trained by Mrs J. Harrington, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 15 October 2026.
Who is Pierre Grosse's sire?
Pierre Grosse (GB) is by Palace Pier (GB) out of Waldfabel (GB), whose sire is Frankel.
What is Pierre Grosse's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 83, from the run on 15 October 2026. The highest on record is 85.
What is Pierre Grosse's sire's record?
Palace Pier (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.4% of 590 runs since Jan 2008 (106 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Pierre Grosse's siblings?
Out of Waldfabel (GB), Pierre Grosse (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2025. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.